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    That's not the point. The point is to prolong human life. The Earth doesn't need us, we need it.
    The Earth isn't going anywhere.

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    Darrin just trolling.

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    The Earth isn't going anywhere.
    That's exactly what he just said.

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    You mean the issue of red team puppets starting "it's cold today, so global warming is bs" threads in the winter and blue team puppets starting "it's hot today, so global warming is real" threads in the summer? As someone who's been a visitor to this forum now for multiple winters and summers and seen the trend I'd say I'm sufficiently qualified to make that observation.
    Feel free to provide links to the threads that have been starting using a warm summer day to support AGW.

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    Pretty narcissistic of humans to put the Earth on their timetable considering the age difference. tbh
    That might be the worst use of that word I've ever seen.

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    The Earth isn't going anywhere.
    Exactly.

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    Quite true. That's why global warmists are climate change deniers. They don't believe climate change is the norm.


    They also LOVE to use anecdotal evidence to support their pet theory, so I don't mind returning the favor.
    The second part is bull . I don't think I've ever once cited anecdotal evidence and certainly not short term weather to try to prove AGW.


    As for the first, AGW can be true and the climate can also have changed in the past. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    Its like trying to say OJ didn't kill Nicole because people died in the past so obviously Nicole's head chopped itself off.

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    Don't remind me you mother ers. I froze my ass off cleaning up the car this morning, and we have another storm coming early next week. FML

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    Global warming does not mean it's going to be hot all the time. It's an evolutionary increase in extreme weather that will result in an inhospitable (for human life) environment. The Earth is not dying, it's just getting rid of it's disease.
    Thats not true at all either but the fact that people think it is remains the biggest reason people can't help but deny AGW.

    AGW theory is the understanding that the Earth is warming due to CO2 and other greenhouse gases. No climate scientist worth a damn is going to say that this means the extinction of the human race. It could have consequences for the human race, but extinction? Not likely.

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    Don't remind me you mother ers. I froze my ass off cleaning up the car this morning, and we have another storm coming early next week. FML
    the winter. I've missed SA the most over the past few weeks due to the temps rarely cracking freezing here.

    I'm excited to have 40s this week. ING 40s.

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    Feel free to provide links to the threads that have been starting using a warm summer day to support AGW.
    Well, not necessarily ONE day, but there are thousands of links (Google it yourself) where a site will say "year X is the hottest year on record" or "hottest November on record" etc. etc.

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    the winter. I've missed SA the most over the past few weeks due to the temps rarely cracking freezing here.

    I'm excited to have 40s this week. ING 40s.
    I was in the Rio Grande Valley in shorts and sandals when the first storm hit the NE here in late December... so that was nice.

    I gotta GTFO from here before I retire. This isn't healthy.

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    Thats not true at all either but the fact that people think it is remains the biggest reason people can't help but deny AGW.

    AGW theory is the understanding that the Earth is warming due to CO2 and other greenhouse gases. No climate scientist worth a damn is going to say that this means the extinction of the human race. It could have consequences for the human race, but extinction? Not likely.
    It's hard to say if it's true or not. It is probable though. It wouldn't be the first time the Earth has rid itself of an entire species.

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    The second part is bull . I don't think I've ever once cited anecdotal evidence and certainly not short term weather to try to prove AGW.

    Never said you did. But a lot of people in the AGW community DO use anecdotal evidence. An Inconvenient Truth is one anecdote after another.

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    Its not probable at all. The greatest rise in global temps that the models predict - and this is not the likeliest - isn't going to make the planet inhospitable for human life or even close to it. The more likely temperature rising is certainly not going to do that.

    If you want to believe that it is, thats your prerogative but that certainly is not what AGW theory, the vast majority of climate scientists, or the IPCC say.

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    Never said you did. But a lot of people in the AGW community DO use anecdotal evidence. An Inconvenient Truth is one anecdote after another.
    Cool, let me know when Al Gore reads this thread.

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    Well, not necessarily ONE day, but there are thousands of links (Google it yourself) where a site will say "year X is the hottest year on record" or "hottest November on record" etc. etc.
    Thats a measurement that on its own obviously doesn't prove anything. Its the trends that matter. I will say this, there is a HUGE difference in using an isolated storm system in the middle of winter to prove a point and using temperature records from a year on the entire globe to use as part of a dataset. One even includes the other.

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    I was in the Rio Grande Valley in shorts and sandals when the first storm hit the NE here in late December... so that was nice.

    I gotta GTFO from here before I retire. This isn't healthy.
    Summer here is bad ass and chances are that I'll be heading north for grad school so I'd better get used to it. FML.

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    Feel free to provide links to the threads that have been starting using a warm summer day to support AGW.
    Just a couple I found quickly using the search function for "record heat".

    The search does make it blatantly obvious that DarrinS and WC are the two biggest offenders on this practice, so, point made. The "it's cold" threads far outnumber the "it's hot" ones.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57245
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146810
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146794

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    2010 tied for Earth’s hottest year on record, NOAA reports

    The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration said Wednesday that last year was tied as the planet's hottest on record.

    Surface temperatures in 2010 were tied with 2005: both years, up approximately 1.12 degrees Fahrenheit over the 20th century's average.

    Surface temperatures for the Earth's oceans were also up by 0.88 degrees Fahrenheit in 2010, once again tying with 2005, this time for the third warmest year on record.

    The NOAA's records date back to 1880 and show, "they said, a rate of warming in the last 30 years that's three times what was seen in the century prior.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/2...-noaa-reports/

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    Sentence from the OP in first link

    I don’t know if this is global warming-related but it's really strange weather.
    2nd thread has nothing about GW in the OP.

    3rd thread started by RG where he says this:

    No actually.

    My point was to point out how silly a lot of global climate change deniers are when they try to use isolated events of cold weather to somehow "disprove" the whole notion of human-caused climate change, as DarrinS does on a regular basis.

    It is a perfect example of a strawman logical fallacy. Isolated heat waves no more prove global climate change than isolated snow storms disprove it.

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    my only point to this is that the proof for or against global warming is not found in today's weather forecast, no matter how hot or cold it is.
    +1

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    That might be the worst use of that word I've ever seen.
    oh no! The Earth's temps have increased 1 degree over the last 20 years. Come plow me Goracle!

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    This is lame. Just make a Al Gore thread and have it pinned to the top of the forum.

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    oh no! The Earth's temps have increased 1 degree over the last 20 years. Come plow me Goracle!
    Don't get mad at me because you use words incorrectly.

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