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    Messi is better than everyone, no big deal, just award the damn man. Same with Lebron, except he s himself to widespread hatred. Don't nobody deny it, Lebron is better than every player in the NBA, and some people pretend to disagree.
    I do not consider Messi "stole" this award but my vote goes to Xavi. For me in 2010 I'd consider Xavi and Sneijder and no Messi didn't perform at expected level during the world cup.

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    Although with that being said, to follow up on my last post and on what resistanze posted, I would be pretty surprised if Messi gets the award a couple of more years consecutively...only because FIFA is way too much of a re ed and corrupt organization. Those ers literally make 95% terrible decisions...so I'd take anything FIFA does, ever, with a tiny grain of salt.
    That's why I wanted Xavi to win it this year. Because I know FIFA won't give it Messi for 4-5 consecutive years, for the sake of 'mixing it up.' Unless he battles injuries, that's probably going to be a dumb decision. Might as well 'mix it up' this year then make sure he gets it in very deserving years.

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    I do not consider Messi "stole" this award but my vote goes to Xavi. For me in 2010 I'd consider Xavi and Sneijder and no Messi didn't perform at expected level during the world cup.
    Why, because he didn't score a goal in that 1-month period of time in a very short tournament??? He played well, period, you are another victim of media bull .

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    That's why I wanted Xavi to win it this year. Because I know FIFA won't give it Messi for 4-5 consecutive years, for the sake of 'mixing it up.' Unless he battles injuries, that's probably going to be a dumb decision. Might as well 'mix it up' this year then make sure he gets it in very deserving years.
    Think about it though. Other than the world cup, Messi had an incredible year. Incredible.


    I'm not saying Xavi didn't deserve it either, I'm not totally sure who I would have voted for, but definitely not Iniesta because Xavi's accomplishments are the same as his + more.

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    The new Algerian NT coach voted for Ronaldo


    Now I know why we suck

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    Think about it though. Other than the world cup, Messi had an incredible year. Incredible.


    I'm not saying Xavi didn't deserve it either, I'm not totally sure who I would have voted for, but definitely not Iniesta because Xavi's accomplishments are the same as his + more.
    Until this year, every year this award has existed, the award winner during a World Cup year has come from the World Cup winning team (Romario, Zidane, Ronaldo, Cannavaro).

    What I'm saying is expect Messi to match or even surpass his total form this year, along with additional team accomplishments (Barca didn't even win the Copa del Rey or CL this year). But I have a feeling they won't give it to Messi for several straight years. Messi is one of those rare players that will be in contention (top 3) every year he's healthy. So if they're gonna spread the wealth (which I'm sure they will), then Xavi definitely should've been the one.

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    Here I'll help you out...
    Actually, it was more like...

    Look at this argie thinking Messi has a chance, what a ing homer

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    Before the award was given I wanted Messi to win it but now I kind of wish Xavi would have won it, this Golden ball may cause some jelausy issues in the Barca locker room, specially with Iniesta.

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    Before the award was given I wanted Messi to win it but now I kind of wish Xavi would have won it, this Golden ball may cause some jelausy issues in the Barca locker room, specially with Iniesta.
    lol Iniesta was the one who shouldn't have been in the final 3.

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    Actually, it was more like...
    You have the memory of an elephant.

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    lol Iniesta was the one who shouldn't have been in the final 3.
    I think so too but according to the rumours he was the one that was going to win, besides I don't know why he strikes me as the one guy that someday may end Barca's peaceful locker room, his relatives have already spoken about how it was an injustice that Messi won it over him.

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    @ Messi today. 3 goals to say I told you so

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    Poor Messi, feeling the pressure of the “unjust” golden ball.

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    Until this year, every year this award has existed, the award winner during a World Cup year has come from the World Cup winning team (Romario, Zidane, Ronaldo, Cannavaro).

    What I'm saying is expect Messi to match or even surpass his total form this year, along with additional team accomplishments (Barca didn't even win the Copa del Rey or CL this year). But I have a feeling they won't give it to Messi for several straight years. Messi is one of those rare players that will be in contention (top 3) every year he's healthy. So if they're gonna spread the wealth (which I'm sure they will), then Xavi definitely should've been the one.
    I pretty much agree with this all, but FIFA awarding it to WC winners and not continuing the trend is due to the voting that occurred. Considering all factors, I would have probably given it to Xavi, or possibly Sneijder.

    Anyway, this type of happens in awarding systems. They're not always the most accurate, and it can go both ways. I can easily see in the future, like you sort of mentioned, Messi not getting the award on a very deserving year simply because they want to share the wealth to someone with very similar accomplishments in the year. Whenever there is human voting involved, you can't expect the results to be the most accurate and appropriate, as we see all of the time with anything FIFA related. Also, the people that vote are all biased homers...I'd say that a small percentage of the voters voted completely objectively for something like this...a soccer award every player dreams of winning someday. It's another symbolic goal for these players to win, and you see how these dudes show their ridiculous biases in the media. Most soccer players have had ridiculous opinions on other teams and players, and many do continuously. The coaches as well. And these are the ers that are voting.

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    Before the award was given I wanted Messi to win it but now I kind of wish Xavi would have won it, this Golden ball may cause some jelausy issues in the Barca locker room, specially with Iniesta.
    I honestly don't think it will. All 3 of the players were happy just to be there with their teammates, the final 3 short list all from the same club, they are probably very happy with that.

    Also, Barca is probably one of the most united clubs, throughout the entire organization, not just the players. They really have team chemistry. I doubt that Iniesta would be too jealous. Sure he might feel some negative feelings briefly, but they're all focused on continuing Barca dominance and they very well should be because they have a very strong core to continue and make history as one of the best clubs ever to play throughout a significant time. Plus, Xavi and Iniesta both know Messi is an amazing player and it helps that Leo is one of the most humble soccer superstars out there.

    I doubt it'll be a problem.

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    Why, because he didn't score a goal in that 1-month period of time in a very short tournament??? He played well, period, you are another victim of media bull .
    He didn't play well, he was expecting to be the big star of this world cup he has been one of the very good players. Is he supposed to be the next Maradona or what ?

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    He didn't play well, he was expecting to be the big star of this world cup he has been one of the very good players. Is he supposed to be the next Maradona or what ?
    Is he supposed to be the next Maradona or what??? WTF does this even mean in your argument. I'll tell you ---> Nothing.

    Messi has never said anything about hinting he's the next Maradona, he actually downplays that crap when it comes up. Journalists write about anything and everything, you should know this.


    And he did play well. He didn't play spectacularly, nor did he play poorly. He simply didn't score a goal, largely because he took on a playmaking role. He did everything to create offense for the team. Don't talk about you didn't even watch, obviously. I watched every minute of every Argentina game. And in their first game vs. Nigeria, Messi had some really great shots that would go in 95% of the time, but the goalie was amazing that day. The article even talks about this:

    http://blogs.bettor.com/FIFA-World-C...d-as-Me-a13613

    However, that does not mean that Argentina is not facing any problems. Although they have scored many goals, and the team that beat Greece in the last match had many players from the bench, the major problem remains. Lionel Messi, the biggest star in the World Cup, has found it very hard to find the back of the net, so far in the tournament. Lionel Messi just had a brilliant season with his club Barcelona, with a record-breaking 47 goals in the season, but is failing to find any goals for his country.

    This does not mean that Messi is not playing well at the moment, because he has shown some real class and quality in the three opening matches. He has made breath-taking runs and had a reasonable number of shots on goals, and also assisted his team-mates in making the chances. This drought of goals is not hurting Argentina, as Messi himself said that he would not care if the team keeps on winning, but it is hurting Messi. Many of the critics have pointed out that Messi does not play well for his country, where he has always failed to show his flair. These remarks have always been thrown towards Messi, despite the fact that he was the top scorer and top assist-maker for Argentina in the Qualifying campaign.
    He didn't score a goal..so ing what, he definitely showed up to play in that tournament.

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    He didn't play well, he was expecting to be the big star of this world cup he has been one of the very good players. Is he supposed to be the next Maradona or what ?
    He played well enough to be considered a top ten player of the tournament.

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    u mad alvarez ? I've watched every game and guess what ? we agree 100%


    And he did play well. He didn't play spectacularly, nor did he play poorly. He simply didn't score a goal, largely because he took on a playmaking role.
    cool no ?

    For the maradona stuff some homers bring this stuff not me and we already have a trillion posts about it.

    I'm a fan of Messi like everybody who like football now IMHFO he has been a disappointment. You disagree ? good for you, i have no problem with your opinion unlike you.

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    He played well enough to be considered a top ten player of the tournament.
    honestly this is what you expected ? Messi being a top 10 player ? low ambition for the best player in the world

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    u mad alvarez ? I've watched every game and guess what ? we agree 100%



    cool no ?

    For the maradona stuff some homers bring this stuff not me and we already have a trillion posts about it.

    I'm a fan of Messi like everybody who like football now IMHFO he has been a disappointment. You disagree ? good for you, i have no problem with your opinion unlike you.
    lol no I'm not mad, dude I really don't care about what people think of Messi, I see the thread le is "Messi=GOD" but us two were simply discussing how Messi played in the world cup. That is all.

    You claim he played poorly, and I disagree and wondered if you even watched the games. All I said was simply for the fact that he didn't score a goal does not mean he didn't play well, and made my case. I just think your opinion is somewhat flawed, and you have to consider that in world cup play, the cir stances are totally different than at the club level. Different teams, players, coaches, very short time span...in the world cup you can't just expect the world's top 10 players to play that way, in that same order, for this tournament. It's just a totally different thing, anyone can step up especially considering how few games a team plays. Any given game, anyone can step up and play to potential or better, and obviously this happens in sports. Cristiano Ronaldo, another top player in the world, scored how many times... once?

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    honestly this is what you expected ? Messi being a top 10 player ? low ambition for the best player in the world
    No, but it proves that he did play well.

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    tbh, some people don't agree with Messi winning because of past awards. Guys like Cannavaro and Ronaldo won the GB only because of the WC and didn't deserve it. So when they see a more deserving guy like Xavi not winning in a WC year they don't understand.

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    lol no I'm not mad, dude I really don't care about what people think of Messi, I see the thread le is "Messi=GOD" but us two were simply discussing how Messi played in the world cup. That is all.

    You claim he played poorly, and I disagree and wondered if you even watched the games. All I said was simply for the fact that he didn't score a goal does not mean he didn't play well, and made my case. I just think your opinion is somewhat flawed, and you have to consider that in world cup play, the cir stances are totally different than at the club level. Different teams, players, coaches, very short time span...in the world cup you can't just expect the world's top 10 players to play that way, in that same order, for this tournament. It's just a totally different thing, anyone can step up especially considering how few games a team plays. Any given game, anyone can step up and play to potential or better, and obviously this happens in sports. Cristiano Ronaldo, another top player in the world, scored how many times... once?
    For one, I never said he played poorly I'm just saying it's an overall disappointing WC for Messi and Argentina. I was expecting a great performance and we got a nice performance.

    I'm part of the guys who think if you want to be considered as one of the best players of the world you have to show that in the WC.

    After France my favorite team has always been Argentina (check the WC threads I was rooting for them). I've seen all the games of 3 nations during the WC: France (not a big effort... lol France), Argentina and Germany. I love the argentinan football and my two favorites players are platini and maradona.

    I'm rooting for Messi but he has to find a way to contribute to ANT at the same level than for Barcelona.

    For the rest I consider Xavi the 2010 best player in the world not Messi.

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    For one, I never said he played poorly I'm just saying it's an overall disappointing WC for Messi and Argentina.
    Direct quote:
    He didn't play well
    I was expecting a great performance and we got a nice performance.

    I'm part of the guys who think if you want to be considered as one of the best players of the world you have to show that in the WC.
    But now we got a nice performance? Make up your mind, and this isn't even the point, this is: we are speaking about the WC in terms of how it can hurt your overall year in the sport. Other than the world cup, it's undeniable that Messi had an unbelievable year. Irrefutable. Playing well, as opposed to playing amazing, somehow takes away all that much from his overall performance during 2010?

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