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Please...as stated in other threads..this killer had political views. Some of them reflect what old Rand Pauls dad has been espousing about money.
Please...as stated in other threads..this killer had political views. Some of them reflect what old Rand Pauls dad has been espousing about money.
And, as stated in other threads, there is no shred of proof his "political views," such as they may have been, played any role in his decision to attempt to assassinate Congresswoman Giffords.
Most of what we know points to the simple premise that he just didn't like her because she was "fake" and had slighted him a some other cons uent function in 2007. It appears that festered in his brain, over the period of years, manifesting in this insane act.
I don't know if they did or didn't. But to act like he was apolitical is simply not true. It's obvious he had political views. Rand Paul and others are being not so truthful when they say he had no political views. He did, whether they played a role in this isn't known yet. Pointing fingers isn't the right thing to do, but regardless of all that, I think it's fair to say that the vitriol from both sides is ridiculous.
Nobody has said Loughner had no political views.
In this clip, all I heard Paul say was that there is no reason to believe his political views had anything to do with Saturday's act. And, since there's no proof to the contrary, Paul makes a valid point.
I don't recall anyone from the Tea Party or the right, for that matter, jumping to the conclusion this was the work of a left-wing ideologue, pro-immigrant zealot, or terrorist.
Those on the right spent most of the past 5 days trying to convince the left they were idiots for so relentlessly pursuing the "he-was-animated-by-Sarah-Palin" narrative in the face of increasingly more convincing evidence it just wasn't true.
Any vitriol from the right, over this issue, was, in my mind, born of indignation and disgust at the New York Times, Paul Krugman, Sheriff Dupnick, et. al.
Murder is not a political act. It transcends political discourse, and is only wielded by those who cant conform to civilzed society under any set of cir stances.
If you are going to tie this murder to politics, than you will have no trouble tying other killings to Ozzy Osbourne and Marilyn Manson.
And all these comparisons are deceptive, shallow, fraudulent, and ultimately they do the country a disservice.
I disagree...
Most political murders/assassins are motivated by a political ideology. That nut that took the hostages at the Discovery Channel prattled on about Al Gore's inconvenient truth.
The Puerto Rican separatists that shot up the House Chamber back in the fifties were motivated by politics.
The list is long.
And, all you have to do is look at pop culture and fashion to know that movie, music, and celebrity have an influence on people.
There is just absolutely no evidence this crime was motivated by any political ideology. All signs point to mental illness.
This guy was a 9/11 twoofer and had The Communist Manifesto on his Oprah book club list. That doesn't lead me to believe these leftist views caused him to go on a murderous rampage.
Dude obviously had some obsession with Giffords.
Funny who else shared those same views.
....I don't believe for 1 minute this nut did not hear Glenn Beck daily and didn't watch Fox news!
I will contend that he was not a tea party member or conservative. Simply because everyone who i have ever encountered, that believed in such corny conspiracies, were either loony left, or leftist libertarian, or of some other influence that keeps them from having enough conservative views.
being anti-govt and talking about the govt controlling grammar is political, if not officially registered as Repug or Dem party member/voter.
being anti-govt is inarguably in agreement with Repug and tea bagger "philosophy" of "GOVT IS THE PROBLEM" and "shrink the govt to drown (destroy) in a bath-tub.
Sorry, mother ers, this Jew-Dem-female-murdering political terrorist belongs to You People.
When life hands you , eat it.
there are only 2 things known to be certain:
1. he went on a killing spree
2. at a democratic rally filled with democrats.
Yes it was horrible. I too remember the harsh words progressives had for blue dogs.
i'd like to hear about this happening in tucson.
care to expand?
Judge Roll was a Republican.
Who said there weren't Republican cons uents in the crowd.
So, really Clambake only knows one thing...and, he has a tenuous grasp on that.
you too?
guy goes on killing spree at democratic rally.
is that correct?
Congress on your Corner wasn't a "Democratic Rally." It was a cons uent forum for Representative Giffords' district -- comprised of Democrats, Republicans, and anyone else she represented.
Are you suggesting Congresswoman Giffords doesn't represent or isn't interested in the views of anyone but her Democrat cons uents?
I don't see her that way.
While I vehemently disagree with her position on a whole lot of issues, Obamacare being chief among them, she was pro-second amendment and shared many of my views on immigration.
I wouldn't be surprised to find her positions on those issues were informed by conservative members of her district. She seemed pretty accessible to everyone and, as is being told, was well liked on both sides of the aisle.
Not everyone thinks in partisan terms.
too insecure to be honest.
So, you're disrespecting Congresswoman Giffords by claiming she didn't care about the views of anyone other than her Democrat cons uents?
you didn't have to come back while you run away from the question.
What question?
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