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    I'm sure there are a hundred other problems with trying to criminalize acts of war but, I'm tired.
    One last thing... what makes their attacks acts of war? That they're committing violence against soldiers in uniform?

    I'm beginning to think that a war should be against a specific enemy, a conflict which can ended by either of the parties officially.

    Otherwise, you get the open-ended war of Afghanistan, where we wouldn't take anyone's surrender as official and it can last as long as we wish it to.

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    I'm not saying it would be easy.
    It would be a cluster . And, an unnecessary one at that.

    Exhibit A:

    Obama White House Press Sec Gibbs Says Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Will be Executed after Tried & Convicted


    And, that's just the circus surrounding one detainee. What if the defense names foreign witnesses that must be found and transported? What if discovery compromises informants -- in other countries -- that do not enjoy the protections our criminal justice system gives endangered witnesses?
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    One last thing... what makes their attacks acts of war? That they're committing violence against soldiers in uniform?

    I'm beginning to think that a war should be against a specific enemy, a conflict which can ended by either of the parties officially.

    Otherwise, you get the open-ended war of Afghanistan, where we wouldn't take anyone's surrender as official and it can last as long as we wish it to.
    Their motives are to undermine the State. That's an act of war.

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    "Their motives are to undermine the State"

    So America is now in the "international thought police" business?

    Do they have the ability to "undermine the State"

    America provoked its enemies by invading and occupying (indefinitely) Muslim countries for oil. That's "why they hate us".

    And America is dumping $Bs into Pakistan which is protecting, supporting, financing, arming the Taleban to keep Afghanistan from being nothing but a disaster.

    And now America is slaughtering 1000s of (Muslim) civilians, written off bureaucratically as collateral damage, provoking more enemies.

    But let one nutcase kill one American, and America's "heart goes out", and a national (cable TV, ak, fake) catharsis.

    America is ing itself, and no one can stop America from ing itself.

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    It would be a cluster . And, an unnecessary one at that.

    Exhibit A:

    Obama White House Press Sec Gibbs Says Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Will be Executed after Tried & Convicted


    And, that's just the circus surrounding one detainee. What if the defense names foreign witnesses that must be found and transported? What if discovery compromises informants -- in other countries -- that do not enjoy the protections our criminal justice system gives endangered witnesses?
    Why do you hate the American system of justice, yoni?

    And why do you pretend we haven't already tried and convicted terrorist suspects in federal court?

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    Their motives are to undermine the State. That's an act of war.
    How do you know this though? You're talking about a war-torn country. Do you think everyone that may fire on US soldiers is automatically a terrorist/trying to undermine the US?

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