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What the ???
Get to the heart of the matter Bean Curds. What's Bean Boy's winning percentage vs. Tim Duncan's winning percentage?
Bust out your slide rule LAL ejaculates and counter the facts.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...entage/page/11
Facts is facts!
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What the ???
This argument has fail written all over it. According to this logic, you penalize a team for advancing to the finals. Yet how can you hope to win a championship if you don't make it to the final dance?
Let's take the 4 teams with the most les, they all started the NBA in different seasons.
Celtics
Champions 17/64 seasons
Finals 21/64 seasons
Made playoffs 48/64 seasons
Lakers
Champions 16/62 seasons
Finals 31/62 seasons
Made playoffs 57/62 seasons
Bulls
Champions 6/44 seasons
Finals 6/44 seasons
Made playoffs 29/44 seasons
Spurs
Champions 4/34 seasons
Finals 4/34 seasons
Made playoffs 30/34 seasons.
Celtics have 4 finals losses, Spurs and Bulls none. Most of their non- le teams weren't good enough to get to the finals, let alone win them. Suppose the Lakers missed the playoffs the 15 seasons they lost the finals. Their finals record would be 16-0, which is quite misleading; they would be a much worse franchise at 16-0 than with the real 16-15.
No slide rule needed. Here is some simple math:
.3076
.3571
Be it dollars, donuts, weight in gold, pounds of pussy, whatever... which would you choose?
with no statistical overview or key, we're supposed to decode this ing math as the truth. Who's numbers are what?
Let's put this in Black & White so punk ass LAL ejaculates can see it and hopefully stop slobbing each other to recognize the facts:
Tim Duncan, the backbone of the Spurs dynasty, is third among active NBA players with a .694 winning percentage.
His regular season record is 716-296 (.708) and his playoff record is 105-65 (.618)I don't know Ejaculates, which is higher? 3rd or 5th? Clue...you get no medal for 5th. Can it get any simpler than that?Kobe Bryant is fifth among current NBA players, winning 65.8 percent of the games he has played in.
His regular season record is 701-356 (.663) and his postseason record is (126-72)(.636).
It is not surprising to find the best basketball player of the last decade high up on this list.
Was just a simple question. No reason to get all bent out of shape. I would think most people would choose the higher % if it's a deserible topic.
les/years
4/13 = .3076 (Tim)
5/14 = .3571 (Kobe)
There is only one ultimate goal and that is to hold the trophy directly after the last game of the NBA season. Anything else is just fluff. So congrats on the 3rd over 5th place finish in what stat was that? Oh yeah, win %. I'll take the trophies!
Tim didn't coattail Shaq though, tbh
2/14 = 0.142 (Kobe)
team game...
5/14 > 4/13 till the cows come home
So by your standards then, should the Spurs win it all this year, Timmy gets no increase in les won. Hmmmmmmmm
Last edited by cobbler; 01-16-2011 at 01:12 AM.
Moving goalposts... cobbler's done it.
so you acknowledge Timmy D. as a future hall of famer
he says thanks
edited previous post
I find it odd that you would end Timmys le collection when you guys are on such a roll. So be it....
I agree. At the end of the season, Tim's held 7 trophies over his head.Was just a simple question. No reason to get all bent out of shape. I would think most people would choose the higher % if it's a deserible topic.
les/years
4/13 = .3076 (Tim)
5/14 = .3571 (Kobe)
There is only one ultimate goal and that is to hold the trophy directly after the last game of the NBA season. Anything else is just fluff. So congrats on the 3rd over 5th place finish in what stat was that? Oh yeah, win %. I'll take the trophies!
4 les and 3 Finals MVP.
Bean's Held 7 as well. 5 les and 2 Finals MVP. But seriously, if it was any other player that went 6-24 in a game 7 plus Artest being the best player that day, I can see why the NBA didn't go anywhere else.
7=7 There is no way to slice it but really, the argument could be made that the lst Finals MVP wasn't really the MVP. Again, he was just the most likely candidate despite his horrendous performance which almost cost the LAL the game.
In essence, they settled on an MVP whereas Duncan's been the anchor the entire time and while 05 was good enough for a Co-MVP in Manu, no one disputes who's the man during Tim's term. Should the Spurs win one for the thumb this season, the MVP could go elsewhere but everyone knows that the foundation that Duncan provides is very key indeed.
Last I looked the MVP was for the "finals" as in series not simply the last game. Nobody disputes who the man on the Lakers is either. Not a single player on the Lakers. Not any other players in the league. Just the haters.
Are you now denying that Tim is deferring to Manu? Thats my point exactly. You can have all the stats and advanced stats. Add to that all your MVP "votes" I don't care. Timmy is a huge part of the Spurs. A vital cog. So is Manu and Tony. You guys win the le and I dont distinguish between key players. Timmy doesnt lose credit cause he was 1b to Manu's 1a or vice versa. It's rubbish.
...and as I have stated many times, I could care less about MVP's and other awards. Especially "voted" awards.
It's all about the LOB's
Yeah, you did. Tim Duncan is a 4-time champion but a former champion. The last Champion to be swept, as was mentioned, were the Heat with Shaq and Wade.
Calico_Jack. ... I'm flattered.
OP's getting it pushed back haha
That is where you yourself are wrong. The initial question says "the last NBA champion - HOF'er" and not simply NBA Champion. While Duncan is undoubtedly a surefire first ballot HOF'er, he isn't one yet.
If you want to play semantics you'll just lose troll.
Were the Spurs the champions last year?
in right! Me team and the dogs bollocks coach in all the land going back 2 back.
Adam and Eve it!
Toodle pip!
LoL missed playoffs
LoL 6-24 in a game 7
LoL needs gasol to win
LoL chucker
CROFL Missing playoffs
CROFL Teammates under the bus
CROFL Gasol trade to be back to meaningfulness
CROFL LOSING two Finals series
CROFL Jefferson trade to be back to meaningfulness
CROFL only making 4 finals
Last edited by cobbler; 01-16-2011 at 07:15 AM.
The thread is an EPIC FAIL. Duncan is one of the best to ever play. Kobe is one of the best to ever play. Who gives a rat's a$$ about what some 26 post clown thinks?
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