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    Those flip shots are so gay, they need to go.
    And they have gone, for weeks on end to the bench.

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    We haven't seen enough of Splitter to make a fair determination. Blair gets regular minutes, Splitter does not.

    It seems to me that much of the criticism leveled at Splitter's play could also be attributed to Blair - even the "soft" accusation (Blair couldn't stop an armchair from scoring).

    At any rate, giving Splitter even limited minutes seems to me to be a win all the way around -where's the problem? We're playing well, we can afford it, and it would give other veterans more rest for the playoffs.
    That's the million-dollar question.

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    What about Ian. Doesn't he look like the more promising of the two?

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    Splitter needs to get pt, his D is good but as I stated before the season started the guy is about as strong as Parris Hilton, he must put on some wt. I have seen a couple nice moves from him when he is settled in, but most the time he looks like hes shocked when he gets the ball.

    We will need him in the playoffs against bigger teams so getting him 15mpg is very important. Still wish we had kept Ian who looks very good when given playing time and is 2 years younger. Bad move letting him go.
    Ian is ting all over Pop at the moment.

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    Splitter is still the better player tbh... Blair's defensive re ness doesnt show in statistics so its easily dismissed by uneducated basketball fans.

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    Splitter is still the better player tbh... Blair's defensive re ness doesnt show in statistics so its easily dismissed by uneducated basketball fans.
    You cannot compare a player who sees limited minutes with someone who starts.

    What you can compare is Blair with every other regular starting center. The next question would be, is there a worse starter at the center position in the league?

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    He doesn't know where to be because he doesn't know the offense or defense. Sean Elliott said himself him missing all of training camp really killed his growth.

    Training camp?

    Isnt it that players should continue to learn and develop as the NBA season goes along? What i mean is....cant the coaches find a way to integrate Splitter now? in the breaks btwn games?

    Any comments pls

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    Training camp?

    Isnt it that players should continue to learn and develop as the NBA season goes along? What i mean is....cant the coaches find a way to integrate Splitter now? in the breaks btwn games?

    Any comments pls
    Of course, coaching continues throughout the season, but Tiago fell far behind by missing camp and preseason. Since he was the 5th of 5 bigs on the day he signed his contract, he missed his greatest chance to move up the depth chart when he missed camp. Then the season started and none of the players ahead of him have done anything to merit demotion. He's really stuck where he is for now.

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    When Splitter "missed" training camp, he was still there. He would still be learning, listening and studying even if his body did not get to go through the physical drills. You can learn the concepts of where to be and how to rotate without actually doing it. It is not like he was gone and missed all the education. Sure, your body needs time to react and not have to think so much, but it is not like he was left clueless.

    Then, once well, he can stay after practice all he wants and study with coaches. This excuse that teams do not practice so much during the season is bogus because any player who wants to practice can and will have a coach and other benchwarmers more than happy to work with him.

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    When Splitter "missed" training camp, he was still there. He would still be learning, listening and studying even if his body did not get to go through the physical drills. You can learn the concepts of where to be and how to rotate without actually doing it. It is not like he was gone and missed all the education. Sure, your body needs time to react and not have to think so much, but it is not like he was left clueless.

    Then, once well, he can stay after practice all he wants and study with coaches. This excuse that teams do not practice so much during the season is bogus because any player who wants to practice can and will have a coach and other benchwarmers more than happy to work with him.
    All true.

    He still started as the 5th out of 5, and nothing in the performances of those ahead of him, or in his own performance, warrants any change in that position.

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    Ian is ting all over Pop at the moment.
    Ian is really ting on Pop with his 3 ppg, 1.8 rpg average.

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    Nice points. But

    1. I disagree that Splitters ultimate value will be on the offensive end. For one thing, although he has a few post moves with the ball, his finishing skills are worse than most U.S. high school big men. He'd have to completely revamp his game to ever be more than a garbage/take-what-he-can-get on offense. Plus, given Pop's history, you know the entire focus of the coaching staff will be to make him a defensive force.

    2. I also disagree that because Blair played well against the Lakers in one game, that the Spurs don't need Splitter. We'll see what happens the rest of the series, but nobody would be surprised if next game Blair goes for 2-and-3 and gets dominated on defense. Unless the Lakers complete implode, the Spurs are ultimately going to need lots of McDyess, or, hopefully Splitter, to succeed against them.
    That's a salient point that I think is being lost amid the euphoria of the Spurs fast start. The Fakers STILL possess a long, tall, dominant frontline. One of the best in the NBA. They are built for the playoffs. Just because the Spurs, Blair especially, dominated them in one game, does not mean that will hold true in a potential playoff series. They just do not have enough size.

    I still believe that, in order for the Spurs to sustain any success against them in a series, they will need a solid contribution from Splitter, along with the regular cast of current frontline bigs.

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    Ian is ting all over Pop at the moment.
    Tell me about it. Here's further proof.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...or-longer-look

    Spurs just allow the guy to walk without so much as being given any solid minutes. One team's trash is another team's fortune. Damn shame.

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    Tell me about it. Here's further proof.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...or-longer-look

    Spurs just allow the guy to walk without so much as being given any solid minutes. One team's trash is another team's fortune. Damn shame.


    proof

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    Splitter just needs to play more. Any fundamental changes to his shot, if they will take place, are gonna happen during the off-season. Don't expect big changes this season. The only way Splitter gets better is if he plays, period. Though, some of the problem is that other players simply don't trust him yet. You can see this.All of the blame can not be put on Splitter. There were several opportunities for teammates to make a pass in Splitter's direction last game, and not only in situations where he was cutting to the basket, also on the perimeter, when all Splitter would have been doing is swinging the ball. George Hill was guilty of this quite a bit. When Splitter gets a tight pass in the P&R, he doesn't pick it up. His hands are not as good as Blair's. His P&R could use work, he tends to sort of hint at a pick, instead of actually setting it, and then beelines to the basket. It looks like more of a sprint drill then an actual pick and roll. Splitter is also getting muscled down low, and fails to use his feet to gain position. Playing time will iron out quite a few of his issues. Thing is, Pop is not going to play him in tight games, because he is, at current juncture, fourth on the depth chart at the five. I'd love it if we could play him with blair and Ginobili and have him play the four spot, with Hill actually distributing the ball evenly. But, as it stands, he creates spacing problems, and he doesn't have the trust of his point guards, namely George Hill. He is a liability unless we are up big.

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    Tell me about it. Here's further proof.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...or-longer-look

    Spurs just allow the guy to walk without so much as being given any solid minutes. One team's trash is another team's fortune. Damn shame.
    Once again he is near the top of the league in PER.
    Granted this is just garbage time but he does it every year... and if he was so easy, why all the other 3rd/4th string centers can't do it?
    that has to mean something about his talent.
    A couple of fact:

    #9 in PER (24)
    Only four player in the top 50 playing less than ten minutes.
    Career PER 23.6 (ok only 319 minutes

    Sometime, I wonder if he is not Amare in the waiting... I mean, with his lack of defense and his bonehead plays how much minutes would Amare have play with Pop as a coach?

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    Sometime, I wonder if he is not Amare in the waiting
    He's not.

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    Sometime, I wonder if he is not Amare in the waiting... I mean, with his lack of defense and his bonehead plays how much minutes would Amare have play with Pop as a coach?
    This is an example of how using statistics as a measuring stick can be misleading. Use your eyes, the difference between Splitter and Amare Stoudemire is obvious.

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    Tell me about it. Here's further proof.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...or-longer-look

    Spurs just allow the guy to walk without so much as being given any solid minutes. One team's trash is another team's fortune. Damn shame.

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    Gotta agree, blair pulled of his dumbest game yet, while splitter looked servicable, considering how little he has played. I'm telling you if he was getting pops favored treatment, the way blair is, it would be a whole different story.
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    Gotta agree, blair pulled of his bumbest game yet, while splitter looked servicable, considering how little he has played. I'm telling you if he was getting pops favored treatment, the way blair is, it would be a whole different story.
    outside of the Block, Splitter was meh. -8 in this game and him and Dejuan played the same exact minutes. just admit you don't like him

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    YES

    SPLITTER IS STILL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLAIR


    Blair's brain is the size of a walnut and his dendrites move like molasses.
    Like all black ppl huh smh

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    outside of the Block, Splitter was meh. -8 in this game and him and Dejuan played the same exact minutes. just admit you don't like him
    Did you even watch the game? It was pretty obvious that Splitter was better than blair tonight, especially defencivelly. Seems like you're the one hating, when people point out the truth that blair sucks against quality frontcourts, get over it already, no need to get so butthurt.

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    YES

    SPLITTER IS STILL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BLAIR


    Blair's brain is the size of a walnut and his dendrites move like molasses.
    dendrites. . .sigh.

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    I have not been clear enough, sorry.

    I am not implying he is nearly as talented as a young Amare just that somehow the same ingredient are there (athletism, some talent, average at best IQ, fouling machine...).
    With this profile, where and who you play for can make a huge difference for your early career.

    Pop would have been mad at Stoudemire for his defense (or lack of) and I am not sure how much he would have played. On the other hand, give Ian some "Brook Lopez" minutes for a lottery team and IMO he is at least a 15 pts/8 rbds player.

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