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    Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.

    He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.

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    Wow, first of all I'm honored to be among the greatest coaches here on ST. Second of all, we don't know what Pop's instructions were. He could've told the second unit to run set plays. Like someone pointed out, it depends on the PG. Tony goes out and Tiago doesn't get the ball anymore. Geeeshh...

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    Antonio McDyess says o.
    Dice is without doubt the most over-rated Spur on this forum. That's not to say he's a positive asset, but at his age he's not the super-sub some are making him out to be.
    What we need is a squad of serviceable bigs, not the slim hope that Dice can overcome father time in the playoffs.

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    Dice is without doubt the most over-rated Spur on this forum. That's not to say he's a positive asset, but at his age he's not the super-sub some are making him out to be.
    What we need is a squad of serviceable bigs, not the slim hope that Dice can overcome father time in the playoffs.
    So you would prefer to hope the squad of "serviceable bigs" could overcome mediocrity instead? I will take Dice over these "serviceable bigs" you mention. What the is that anyhow?

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    I'm french, I have no agenda, look at the flag. I'm just living in Brazil, if not for the spurs I wouldn't give a damn about if Splitter is good or not.
    Didn't I say that? I guess I wasn't creative enough with my English to impress upon you my intent.

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    Isn't Tiago like, newly wed? He probably isn't used to spending too much energy on bed then on court....

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    Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.

    He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.
    When did I blame Pop? Not agreeing with him is one thing, blaming's another.

    The team's 34-6 ... not sure what I could be blaming him for.

    Tiago played well when he first started getting minutes and has regressed pretty much ever since. Which leads me to believe, in combination with his body language and urgency of play, that he's fighting an unwinnable battle for minutes in his view.

    One other thing that has to be considered is how much Chip and Co. have been working on his shot and game. He may not be sulking as much as all of the retooling has him thinking out there more than reacting, which could very well be the case -- just got done listening to Tiago talk about how they've been working on his shot.

    But regardless, the guy doesn't suck. This is a proven player. He's not some future star or anything but given the opportunity to play minutes, get a rhythm and learn his teammates (namely the Big 3), we'll all begin to see the player he truly is and what he's capable of bringing to a contender.

    Pop doesn't believe Splitter's upside and potential this year is that of someone who gives them a better chance at long-term success than Blair or Bonner. That's what I've comes to believe, anyway. I disagree -- I believe the Spurs are going to need Splitter and the only way he'll be what they need him to be is to have him get his reps, take his lumps and figure out his role out by the time the postseason rolls around.

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    Tonight vs. Denver in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.

    Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.

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    Tonight vs. Denver first half: in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20110116/DE...#nbaGIboxscore

    Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.

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    Tonight vs. Denver first half: in 8.06 min 3 pts/2 boards/and a of a block and Spurs made a run with him in there and he intimitated on a few other shots.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20110116/DE...#nbaGIboxscore

    Just let him play and he will produce and it is nice to see a true legit big out there when TD is not.
    He's minus 3, so was obviously NOT in there for the big run.

    He's been OK tonight. LOVED to see him challenge and erase JR Smith's shot at the rim. Frankly, though, if I'm the opposition, I'd just foul him any time he got close enough for a layup. He's horrible at the line. Any further out, and I'd take any little flip shot he throws up in stride.

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    He bridged the part where Denver created its lead and the Spurs did make a major move up and by the time Duncan came back in the Spurs were near or at the lead. Splitter did have a ball swiped from him and missed a close in shot but otherwise he did better and again it shows: 1) Pop has at least some faith in him; 2) he is not worthless as some recently have suggested but has the potential to be a big to fill a key need at the right time for the Spurs going forward.

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    Pop hasn't decided this year isn't for Tiago, Tiago has. You say he's mailing it in and then proceed to blame Pop? Gary Neal is getting playing time. James Anderson was getting playing time. Pop has been playing the youth, but Tiago has just sucked.

    He has potential, but right now the guy simply isn't that good. Thats pretty much the bottom line.
    Pop's had no choice but to play them, considering the fact that they're the only backup wings on the team. Granted, Hill plays almost half of his minutes at the two, but still. There is no Blair, Bonner or McDyess on the wings to play ahead of them.

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    Tiago smash

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    He's minus 3, so was obviously NOT in there for the big run.

    He's been OK tonight. LOVED to see him challenge and erase JR Smith's shot at the rim. Frankly, though, if I'm the opposition, I'd just foul him any time he got close enough for a layup. He's horrible at the line. Any further out, and I'd take any little flip shot he throws up in stride.
    He was minus 3 on account of Harrington hitting a decently contested 3-ball. When he came in they were down one, when the first quarter ended they were down 4.

    But I assume Rummpd was speaking to the 11-1 run Splitter was apart of to finish his second stint. That run allowed the Spurs to tread water and play the Nuggets even during the second quarter and wound up being the setup for the big run of 19-0 a minute and a half later.

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    When did I blame Pop? Not agreeing with him is one thing, blaming's another.

    The team's 34-6 ... not sure what I could be blaming him for.

    Tiago played well when he first started getting minutes and has regressed pretty much ever since. Which leads me to believe, in combination with his body language and urgency of play, that he's fighting an unwinnable battle for minutes in his view.

    One other thing that has to be considered is how much Chip and Co. have been working on his shot and game. He may not be sulking as much as all of the retooling has him thinking out there more than reacting, which could very well be the case -- just got done listening to Tiago talk about how they've been working on his shot.

    But regardless, the guy doesn't suck. This is a proven player. He's not some future star or anything but given the opportunity to play minutes, get a rhythm and learn his teammates (namely the Big 3), we'll all begin to see the player he truly is and what he's capable of bringing to a contender.

    Pop doesn't believe Splitter's upside and potential this year is that of someone who gives them a better chance at long-term success than Blair or Bonner. That's what I've comes to believe, anyway. I disagree -- I believe the Spurs are going to need Splitter and the only way he'll be what they need him to be is to have him get his reps, take his lumps and figure out his role out by the time the postseason rolls around.

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    Anybody still comparing Tiago to Oberto needs a smack upside the head.. Oberto was a GOOD player, Tiago sucks. Don't insult Oberto by comparing him to Splitter.

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    Tiago is a much better player than McDyess. McDyess should already be retired. He's totally washed up.
    SMH

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    lol greece

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    ChumpDumper This message is hidden because ChumpDumper is on your ignore list.
    When you post that on my profile page, that isn't ignoring me.

    That'll show him. Opa!

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    When you post that on my profile page, that isn't ignoring me.

    That'll show him. Opa!
    In case he does let me let him in on it

    LOL GREECE!

    I think MFKBP is just mad because A1 isn't as good as the ACB. So anything he can say to talk bad about the ACB is going to make him happy... or is it a she? I forget, its been a while.

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    In case he does let me let him in on it

    LOL GREECE!

    I think MFKBP is just mad because A1 isn't as good as the ACB. So anything he can say to talk bad about the ACB is going to make him happy... or is it a she? I forget, its been a while.
    , once you get past Oly and Pana, the rest of the A1 isn't as good as the Dleague.

    lol MFKBP

    lol ignoring by posting that you're ignoring.

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    , once you get past Oly and Pana, the rest of the A1 isn't as good as the Dleague.

    lol MFKBP

    lol ignoring by posting that you're ignoring.
    How ignorant is it to ignore ignoring the ones you are set to ignore?

    Euroleague Top 16 this year, 5 teams from ACB, 2 Greek teams.
    Euroleague Top 16 last year, 4 ACB, 3 greek teams. Winner, ACB team.

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    the last time there was an nba lockout was during a time when the us economy was greatly, exceedingly stronger and better than it is now. If there is an nba lockout next season, the chances are very good that there will not be an nba season.

    The nba will not survive if it allows anything remotely close to what it allowed the last time. They will simply close the nba and it will cease to exist, long before they give anything remotely near what they gave last time.

    On the other hand, you have a bunch of incredibly delusional, re ed, fools that think they are really worth those salaries and will want to hold out.

    So don't hold your breath if you are actually expecting there to be a season if there is a lockout. Because the situation is much different than it was the last time it happened.
    lol

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    How many times does it have to be explained to you that Splitter was the same exact player in Europe that he is in the NBA? You can't seem to grasp it. You seem to think he just wrecked guys in Europe and now all of a sudden he can't play because he is adjusting to the NBA......

    implying that once he adjusted to the NBA he would solve those issues.

    He was always soft and weak in Euroleague. Spurs fans are just unbelievably delusional homers when it comes to the level of some of their players. Splitter was always considered to be one of the softest and weakest centers in Euroleague.

    He isn't going to solve those problems just by adjusting in time to the "NBA". He simply is NOT that kind of player. Once again, he is a guy to guard the Dirk, Pau, Garnett types of players.

    If he could not guard physical players in Europe, why is he being expected to in the NBA? It makes no sense. That was never what he did at any time in his career.
    What you don't seem to grasp is that RJ was who he was as well when he came to the Spurs. Now he's playing better defense, he spent the Summer months working on fundamentals, and he's an asset to the team.

    The almost indescribably great different between the most other franchises, including those in the Euro league, and the Spurs is that the Spurs organization DEVELOPS players. It doesn't just settle with what a player brings to the table. If we did that, we would be the Timberwolves, the Kings or the Clippers.

    We (Spurs fans) don't expect Tiago to be what he was in Euro league play. We expect him to be what the Spurs need him to be through development based training.

    It's a strange concept for player fans, I know, but team and game fans generally understand that potential exists in players that wasn't necessarily discovered on their previous team (See Roger Mason Jr as an example).

    So hesh up fool.

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    Dude, closing the NBA isn't funny. What happens when someone shows up late the next morning and we end up standing outside for hours just to get back in?

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