View Poll Results: Did Right-Wing Political Rhetoric Play a role in the Tucson Shooting?

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  1. #26
    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    I'll leave that to The Daily Kos.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    BTW, the poll question "Did Right-Wing Political Rhetoric Play a role in the Tucson Shooting?" carries the implicit premise that in order to answer the poll, we should already know the answer. This is KOS quality polling, Yoni.

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    BTW, the poll question "Did Right-Wing Political Rhetoric Play a role in the Tucson Shooting?" carries the implicit premise that in order to answer the poll, we should already know the answer. This is KOS quality polling, Yoni.
    I'm not a professional pollster. But, I think you can form an opinion on the answer by now. And, if you can't, the "I don't know" answer is there for you to use.

    Would you have felt better if I had prefaced the question with, "In your opinion," or "Do you believe,?" I thought that was implied but, if not, I'm now stating it explicitly. I was asking those polled what they believed to be true.

    You're getting pretty pedantic over a meaningless poll on a meaningless forum.

    Hey, why not start a thread on Yonivore's cer ude on the Tucson massacre. Because, in my opinion, I don't believe any political rhetoric played a role in the massacre. None.

    Further, I think the left pushed that narrative because they wanted a dialogue to get started on how to shut up the right because they can't answer any of the points being made in opposition to most of the Obama agenda.

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    We'll see just how "knowable" it really is. You're assuming that Loughner has a reason predicated upon a rational thought process.
    No, I'm assuming whatever Loughner's rationale it won't end up being predicated on any vitriolic, partisan, rancor from any mainstream political group.

    I have no desire to create a poll that accomplishes nothing.
    No, you'd obviously rather spend your time in a meaningless argument, over a "poll that accomplishes nothing."

    An even more noble endeavor.

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    Would you have felt better if I had prefaced the question with, "In your opinion," or "Do you believe,?" I thought that was implied but, if not, I'm now stating it explicitly. I was asking those polled what they believed to be true.
    I don't know if I would've felt better (?), but it would've been a much clearer poll question if you had done that....that's the funny thing about poll questions...they are meant to be taken literally.

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    I think it's knowable and so, my poll reflects all the answers I think possible. Seems like you should answer "I don't know." But, that's up to you.
    Then, it seems your answer to the question, "Was Right-Wing Political Rhetoric in any way responsible for the shootings in Tucson last Saturday?" would be "Yes."
    Based on my post, you suggest "I don't know" would be the appropriate answer for my position.

    Based on agreeing with my post, you suggest "yes" would be Teysha's appropriate answer.

    That alone speaks volumes of the clarity and accuracy of your own poll.

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    Based on my post, you suggest "I don't know" would be the appropriate answer for my position.

    Based on agreeing with my post, you suggest "yes" would be Teysha's appropriate answer.

    That alone speaks volumes of the clarity and accuracy of your own poll.
    Oh well, don't answer the poll. Considering the number of responses, people disagree.

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    I don't know.

    Intellectually dishonest Right-Wing hate rhetoric is obscene though. And helps nothing. And coming from public right-wing political figures, is absolutely overwhelming in volume and vitriol compared to what you hear from comparable figures on the left.

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    I notice you lost the crosshairs in your sig. Whatever caused you to do that?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 01-17-2011 at 06:27 PM.

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    I don't know.

    Intellectually dishonest Right-Wing hate rhetoric is obscene though. And helps nothing. And coming from public right-wing political figures, is absolutely overwhelming in volume and vitriol compared to what you hear from comparable figures on the left.
    You've obviously never seen Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, or Chuck Shumer take control of a microphone.

    First of all, I reject the claim there are leaders in the Republican party that have come even close to some of the hate-filled rhetoric spewed by just those three Democrat leaders. But, if you want to get down to the rank and file Democrat, there are hours of footage and gigabytes of images displaying the absolute depravity of left-thinking hate-mongers.

    President Bush didn't go anywhere that you didn't see posters calling for his death, assassination, murder or where he wasn't hung or burned in effigy.

    And, that doesn't even touch on the "Nazi" issue. Bu ler was a common epithet for the 8 years of the Bush presidency.

    Let's compare, balli. You first. Show me where a leading Republican suggested Obama should be killed.

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    Hey, yoni found something else he sucks at.

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    "I reject the claim there are leaders in the Republican party that have come even close to some of the hate-filled rhetoric spewed by just those three Democrat leaders."

    YOU LIE

    "President Bush didn't go anywhere that you didn't see posters calling for his death, assassination, murder or where he wasn't hung or burned in effigy"

    He's a war criminal, he lied the US into a bogus war resulting in 100s of 1000s of deaths.

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    I notice you lost the crosshairs in your sig.
    Well... I created that during the course of the 2010 congressional campaign. Parodying the crosshairs graphic that one Sarah Palin, quite seriously, unleashed unto her rabid base of idiots. I did so (create it) because at the time I was appalled and worried about such imagery entering into our public discourse, from the mouthpiece of a sadly influential political persona. And because I thought it served as a satirical recrimination of such. Which is why I had it in my signature for nearly a month of the previous year. Upon one of the targeted representatives actually being gunned down, I felt it doubly served as a reminder of exactly how dangerous is the vitriol and hate-filled Sarah Palin.

    Whatever caused you to do that?
    Due to The President's call for greater civility in our discourse with one another, I removed the parody/graphic, turned the other cheek if you will.

    My private views on the matter still stand.
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    Problem?

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    Poll: How long will right wing loyalists about the insinuation that they had anything to do with the AZ shootings?

    a) 1 year
    b) 5 years
    c) Forever
    d) All of the above, also, much longer than the insinuation ever existed that they had anything to do with the shootings

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    Yonivore doth protest way too ing much, tbh.

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    Yonivore doth protest way too ing much, tbh.
    You say nothing and it gets taken as agreement; you say something and your complaining too much.

    Bah, I haven't come close to setting the record straight on this as many time as the left has claimed right-wing rhetoric was a factor.

    The left doth lie too ing much.

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    How can you set the record straight when you don't know anything?

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    You're still using McCartney as an avatar.

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    You're still using McCartney as an avatar.
    , but it's Dusty Hoffman.

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    , but it's Dusty Hoffman.
    WTF???? I need new glasses.

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