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    Killings of newborn babies on the rise in Pakistan

    Why are these people taken seriously by the international community?

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    Killings of newborn babies on the rise in Pakistan

    Why are these people taken seriously by the international community?
    let's just kill 2 billion people



    sincerely,

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    Why does the US keep giving $Bs to Pakistan who finances, arms, protects the Taliban?

    30K guns death in USA every year, not a peep from Yoni.

    US has worst infant mortality rate of all the industrial counties with "socialized" health care, mostly due the USA lack of perinatal (expensive) health care, wi. not a peep from Yoni, other that to lie that the USA has the best health care in the world.



    Yoni, really, when is your period over?

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    Critical thinking fail. Do just a little research and you'll see why the chart above is bogus.
    *hint* start with reportable miscarriages.

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    spinning today, are we?

    US health care ranks below industrial "socialized" health care in outcomes and way above in cost per capita. US infant mortality rates are way, way up whatever international comparisons you want to dig up.

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    I play pretty, no? TeyshaBlue's Avatar
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    spinning today, are we?

    US health care ranks below industrial "socialized" health care in outcomes and way above in cost per capita. US infant mortality rates are way, way up whatever international comparisons you want to dig up.
    Not spinning, just pointing out inaccurate data. USIM rates are actually on the decline right now although they have remained static the last few years at 6.8 per 1000 live births.
    You and I actually share the same views regarding healthcare in the US...right down to a robust public option. I would just prefer the decision are made upon accurate data is all. It serves the cause better.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    fire missiles problably contributed to the number.

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    Why does the US keep giving $Bs to Pakistan who finances, arms, protects the Taliban?

    30K guns death in USA every year, not a peep from Yoni.

    US has worst infant mortality rate of all the industrial counties with "socialized" health care, mostly due the USA lack of perinatal (expensive) health care, wi. not a peep from Yoni, other that to lie that the USA has the best health care in the world.



    Yoni, really, when is your period over?
    Does that include abortions?

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    does it include tiny martyrs?

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    I hear Iran is still stoning and hanging gays and that most of the Muslim world still subjugates women -- generally treating them like chattel.

    Aren't some of those countries now on the UN's Human Rights committee?

    Just sayin'

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    So, all Muslims are evil?

    Is this he takeaway?

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    Why are these people taken seriously by the international community?
    Cherry picking. "These people "are not all Pakistani, nor is Pakistan typical of the whole Muslim world. A better example would be Indonesia.

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    Yoni's period is really dragging on this time.

    He should quickly seen his gyno.

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    Cherry picking. "These people "are not all Pakistani, nor is Pakistan typical of the whole Muslim world. A better example would be Indonesia.
    Okay, Indonesia then...

    Study Group on Islamic Extremism in Indonesia

    Indonesia: The shadow of extremism

    Support mounts for Indonesian Islamic extremists

    Indonesia and Transnational Islamic Extremism

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    So, all Muslims are evil?

    Is this he takeaway?
    It is the religion of peace!

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    It is the religion of peace!
    Just love what they're doing to the Christians in Northern Africa right now...

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    Willis Elliott is a contributor to the Washington Post's "On Faith" blog. Elliott submitted an article to the Post that responded to a piece on Muslim-Christian relations by another contributor. The Post declined to publish Elliott's essay, so Pajamas Media did. Elliott responded to this discussion topic, posted by Elizabeth Tenety of the Post:

    The Mutual Blasphemy of Christianity and Islam.

    2011 began with some bleak news for Muslim-Christian relations around the world.

    Recent attacks against churches in Iraq, Nigeria and Egypt have killed dozens of Christian worshippers. Meanwhile, the Pakistani government is standing by the country's controversial blasphemy law which critics say threatens religious minorities.

    How should political and religious leaders in America and abroad deal with these challenges to interfaith relations?
    Elliott's response contributed, I think, a needed dose of realism; the fact that the Post didn't want to print it is disquieting:

    "Mutual blasphemers, love one another!" is the le of an essay I published many years ago. Now as then, the human project is to learn not only to live with, but to love, "the blasphemers" (meaning whichever of the two religions is not yours).

    1. But the project, so defined, is not neutral. It is Christian and humanist. Christian: Jesus said, "Love your enemies." Islam, to the contrary, is essentially hostile to "the infidels." ...

    2. Blasphemy (irreverent speech or action against a deity or religious person/belief/object) is currently in the news only when Muslims become violent, or threaten violence, when they feel offended: when we Christians feel offended, almost never do we become violent, and almost always we suffer the disrespect in silence.

    In the New Testament (and other early Christian literature), much is said about nonviolence, never is violence commanded or even suggested; it is forbidden. Not so, early Muslim literature. The contrast is to be expected: Jesus was anti-violent, Muhammad was violent (a military leader as well as a religious leader). ...

    ...Islam was, from its start, majority-minded; and Muslims don't know how to behave when they are not in power: it enrages them, makes them thin-skinned to "blasphemy," drives them to achieve power and impose sharia, even motivates some of them to martyr-suicide in killing any they consider enemies of Allah.
    Christianity and Islam are far more different than is popularly supposed. Elliott concludes:

    [W]e can make no essential progress, religious or political, unless we honestly and courageously confront the reality that our two religions are essential enemies, antagonists each to the other's essence, mutual blasphemers. Only with that realism can the mutual blasphemers begin to learn to get along with each other without violence. ...

    Muslims will continue to strive (jihad) for dar es salam (a peaceful world under Allah) in dar es harb (the "war" world, all the world not yet under Allah -- especially where non-Muslim governments such as the state of Israel are in control of any part of the world that was once under Allah). And "the West" (with rootage in Christianity) will not cease pressing for religious freedom everywhere.
    There's your "Religion of Peace."

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    the US had socialized healthcare in 1960?

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    good thing nobody in this christian country of ours kills or abandons babies. glad that stuff only happens in them middle east countries

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    There's your "Religion of Peace."
    More cherry picking. Two can play at that.

    Here is your religion of peace, Yoni:

    http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/on...tmas_mass.html

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    More cherry picking. Two can play at that.

    Here is your religion of peace, Yoni:

    http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/on...tmas_mass.html
    Muslims defy their own murderous co-religionists and you think that answers?

    Okay...The Muslim Faith is a faith predicated on violent subjugation of infidels. That doesn't make all Muslims violent. But, it does make any Muslim that counters that a blasphemer to their own religion.

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    Muslims defy their own murderous co-religionists and you think that answers?
    In the most emphatic way, yes.

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    In the most emphatic way, yes.
    Well, a few peaceful Muslims doesn't make it a peaceful religion.

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    Well, a few peaceful Muslims doesn't make it a peaceful religion.
    A few, huh?

    You're a bigot and a dirtbag.

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