Roddy Beaubois nearing return

[K-State Spur]

you watched game 6 of last years series vs the spurs? roddy almost turned that game around but then he got benched in favor of jason terry. and the exact same thing will happen this year because carlisle believes in the veterans of this team and terry somehow has the rep of being clutch in 4th quarters

Mav fan* was only watching one end of the floor for Roddy for much of that series.

He looked unguardable by the Spurs at times, but he also got torched on the defensive end (which led to Carlisle pulling him).

* Edit: This was meant towards generic Mav Fan, I just realized that this also your SN

[Brandon Bass]

When did this happen and who outside of you and Mark Cuban believes this?

[Kyle Orton]

& you'd have all the answers right? Because you're so ing mighty here on ST, that you have so much pull, that you know for certain that Neal raped a . Damn, I'm amazed at your piece of mentality. You're not offending ME because you THINK Gary Neal raped a , so get off my rod got.

[FkLA]

Not just saying this as a Mavs fan, but Roddy's trade value is through the roof. All the "untouchable" and "future of the franchise" talk has really sky rocketed his value.... coupled with a few flashes of brilliance by Roddy himself. Mavs are trying to land perennial all stars with Roddy, and he's actually considered a legit trade piece in such talks.

Teams are going to bite on Butler/Roddy package.... we couldn't sell a Butler/Hill package nearly as well. Part of Roddy's value is that he's a mystery with so much upside.... people know about his highlight reels, not necessarily all the times he was yanked because he was out of position on defense. Roddy has a lot of trade value right now, much more so than Hill.

sup, are u a general manager???

in what tier of players is roddy b in...give some examples of the type of players that would warrant trading him? a straight up swap too, not packaged witt butler. im trying to get a feel of just how much general managers value roddy b's potential tbh

[Ditty]

I hate to say this but Roddy has all the tools to be as good or better as Parker,kid can shoot.

Dude may be the fastest guy in the league he gets down the court fastttttttt

He does seem too out of control at times, and probably won't be as smart or unselfish player as Parker.

[K-State Spur]

Teams are going to bite on Butler/Roddy package.... we couldn't sell a Butler/Hill package nearly as well. Part of Roddy's value is that he's a mystery with so much upside.... people know about his highlight reels, not necessarily all the times he was yanked because he was out of position on defense. Roddy has a lot of trade value right now, much more so than Hill.

Mysteries with upside get you second round picks, not all-stars. Butler + Roddy lands a salary dump, little more. Roddy's not going to convince a team to pry away anybody that they want to keep.

[mikeschy55]

Phillip logic:

Beaubois (career average 7.1 ppg) is worth more than anyone in the NBA not named LeBron, Wade, or Melo.

Averaged 7 pts in 12 mpg, with the highest PER of any rookie. So at best, his stats are irrelevant to him when judging him as a player. He actually has great stats in the time he produced (only rookie ever to shoot 40/50/80).... its just it's such a small sample size it doesn't really matter.

If you've seen the guy play (and there's no way you could have missed him if you watched game 6 last season), then you'd understand the hype surrounding him. He's our best young asset, of course he's not worth a melo for a half season.

[monosylab1k]

of course he's not worth a melo for a half season.

I disagree wholeheartedly. Whether Melo would sign an extension or not, I trade Roddy for him IN A HEARTBEAT. And I'm a huge Roddy fan.

Roddy's ceiling is probably "solid 2nd option" and not "NBA Superstar". As far as him being the future of the franchise, he isn't. He's a nice supporting member as long as Dirk's still playing at a high level. After that, he'll be a good player on a ty team, nothing more.

The time to win is right now, and with Carmelo, the Mavs this season have their best championship hopes since 2006. Even if he's gone after the season is over, it's worth it because as it is, this team only has another year or two anyways, with Roddy or without.

Why hold onto Roddy? So that after Dirk gets old, you can have the 2nd coming of Michael Finley? An All-Star on a 20 win team?

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Roddy B is no Tiago or Andersen
but he's alright

[mikeschy55]

Mysteries with upside get you second round picks, not all-stars. Butler + Roddy lands a salary dump, little more. Roddy's not going to convince a team to pry away anybody that they want to keep.

Roddy could land Stephen Jackson or maybe Gerald Wallace, he could prob land T. Prince and numerous other players as well. Those are the teams the Mavs have been in discussions with and they have all asked for Roddy B in retrun along with butler's contract. Ask some Bobcat fans......a lot of them would do a Butler/Roddy package. You don't have to believe me, but Roddy has a lot of trade value around the league... a lot of people (outside of spurs nation) consider him a special young talent.

Listen to your friend Ditty, he's speaking the truth.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I disagree wholeheartedly. Whether Melo would sign an extension or not, I trade Roddy for him IN A HEARTBEAT. And I'm a huge Roddy fan.

Roddy's ceiling is probably "solid 2nd option" and not "NBA Superstar". As far as him being the future of the franchise, he isn't. He's a nice supporting member as long as Dirk's still playing at a high level. After that, he'll be a good player on a ty team, nothing more.

The time to win is right now, and with Carmelo, the Mavs this season have their best championship hopes since 2006. Even if he's gone after the season is over, it's worth it because as it is, this team only has another year or two anyways, with Roddy or without.

I have to agree. Cuban would be so confident that he could get Melo to sign that he would trade our best young asset. Cuban would do anything to get that 2ns superstar in here with Dirk

[Cry Havoc]

Did you miss the part where Phillip said "unless he agreed to an extension"? It wouldn't make much sense to trade their only promising young player for a half season Melo rental. If Mavfan said they wouldn't trade Roddy for an extended Melo tho, that'd certainly be re ed.

they said they wouldnt even trade him unless they got someone like Bron, Wade, or Melo, and I think they would even be hesitant to trade him for Melo, unless he agreed to an extension.

hether he will turn out to be any good through his career is entirely up to him, but he has all the talent and gifts to be truly great. He has Tony Parker type quickness and finishing, Derrick Rose explosiveness and athletic ability, and damn near Steve Nash level jump-shooting ability.

Seriously, you think Roddy warrants this kind of praise? He's Tony Parker Derrick Rose and Steve Nash all rolled into one?

Also lol spurfan talking about Mavfan when their own say they wouldn't trade -Jef for Melo.

Which was a stupid comment, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't even a Spurs fan who said it.

Except that he didn't say anything close to that.

they said they wouldnt even trade him unless they got someone like Bron, Wade, or Melo, and I think they would even be hesitant to trade him for Melo, unless he agreed to an extension.

Cry got didn't learn how to read even after all the advanced literature essays he's written in his elite college program.

You're so funny! You said my name only you exchanged "Havoc" for " got!" You are so funny and creative!

[monosylab1k]

How? If I am on the Mavs I rather have Roddy. If I am on the Spurs I rather have Neal/Hill.

But if I were to form my own team, I would take Roddy over both. That man can do it all.

Well he can't rape or send shots, at least as far as we know.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Bottom line is the Mavs organization has such high hopes for this kid.
When Dirk comes out and says that this kid is "the future of the franchise"
you know he's legit. Mavs fans have a right to be up in arms about this kid, he has all the makings

[mikeschy55]

I disagree wholeheartedly. Whether Melo would sign an extension or not, I trade Roddy for him IN A HEARTBEAT. And I'm a huge Roddy fan.

Roddy's ceiling is probably "solid 2nd option" and not "NBA Superstar". As far as him being the future of the franchise, he isn't. He's a nice supporting member as long as Dirk's still playing at a high level. After that, he'll be a good player on a ty team, nothing more.

The time to win is right now, and with Carmelo, the Mavs this season have their best championship hopes since 2006. Even if he's gone after the season is over, it's worth it because as it is, this team only has another year or two anyways, with Roddy or without.

Why hold onto Roddy? So that after Dirk gets old, you can have the 2nd coming of Michael Finley? An All-Star on a 20 win team?

Actually, yea... your definitely right come to think of it. If we rented a Melo Cuban could probably convince him to stay... and if not, well this is could be our last shot at a ring. We'll see what happens. And yea that's what I think Roddy's potential is....can be a second option on offense, maybe a first for a ty team down the road.

[FkLA]

Roddy B is no Tiago or Andersen
but he's alright

andersen isnt being hailed as the next scottie pippen tbh

while apparently roddy b is the next isiah

Roddy could land Stephen Jackson or maybe Gerald Wallace, he could prob land T. Prince and numerous other players as well. Those are the teams the Mavs have been in discussions with and they have all asked for Roddy B in retrun along with butler's contract. Ask some Bobcat fans......a lot of them would do a Butler/Roddy package. You don't have to believe me, but Roddy has a lot of trade value around the league... a lot of people (outside of spurs nation) consider him a special young talent.

Listen to your friend Ditty, he's speaking the truth.

roddy couldnt land stephen jackson or gerald wallace...roddy+butlers expiring could. the appeal in that trade for the bobcats has alot to do with the caproom they would get, roddy's potential is an added bonus. same with the pistons.

your delusional...who even talks about roddy as more than a guy with potential that may or may not develope (outside of dallas)?

[mikeschy55]

andersen isnt being hailed as the next scottie pippen tbh

while apparently roddy b is the next isiah



roddy couldnt land stephen jackson or gerald wallace...roddy+butlers expiring could. the appeal in that trade for the bobcats has alot to do with the caproom they would get, roddy's potential is an added bonus. same with the pistons.

your delusional...who even talks about roddy as more than a guy with potential that may or may not develope (outside of dallas)?

That was my point, I'm aware Butler has to be involved. But the fact that he's recognized around the league as a legit young talent (to varying degrees), we can probably get a good player (butler upgrade) for him. I guess you can call me delusional, but all I ever said is that he has a high trade value and that he has a potential to be a special player in this league, nothing wrong with that.... except that your a spurs fan and its hard for you to appreciate any player on the Mavs.

[Cry Havoc]

I find it humorous how some Mav fans are "absolutely sure" that the Mavs wouldn't trade Roddy for anyone less than a superstar in the league and ridiculing others for thinking otherwise, while other Mavs fans on the exact same page are stating, "well, we could get some decent players for him, maybe a 2nd or 3rd option."

Gee, I wonder who's being more realistic and objective?

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Cuban wouldn't even entertain trading Roddy for Wallace or Jackson.
Which is why I believe a trade for Jackson is looking less and less likely

[monosylab1k]

You're so funny! You said my name only you exchanged "Havoc" for " got!" You are so funny and creative!

It really depends on the enigmatic nature of havoc. What really is to be gained from the nebulous leanings of derelicts? The simplistic notions of others collided with my brain like the metronome of autonomy. As I threw the shuttle into the air and felt it's weight against the force of my stroke, I was reminded of her again. The girl. She had a nose ring and read Kerouac. Her evening remembrance was as apt as pure idiom. Had I not already fumbled the presentation of the morning orchids to her, I would have wed her. But instead the woman to be wed was not one of the traditional values of femininity. Rather, this woman had a . And that's how Havoc is exchanged to got.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Cuban robbed MJ blind once already, maybe he can do it again.
Only way Mavs trade for Jackson and that contract is if it's Butler and fillers

[cheguevara]

Gary > Roddy

Neal with it

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I'm a Spurs fan but Roddy is better than Hill/Neal if you are starting your own team. BUT the difference is that Neal and Hill fit their roles better than Roddy would on the Spurs right now.

I get ya, it may be harder for Spurs fans.

[sefant77]

.roddy+butlers expiring could. the appeal in that trade for the bobcats has alot to do with the caproom they would get, roddy's potential is an added bonus. same with the pistons.

your delusional...who even talks about roddy as more than a guy with potential that may or may not develope (outside of dallas)?

Its a pretty horrible trade.

This season you have Jax or Crash instead of Roddy playing. Fine.

The next seasons you have stoneold Jax or Crash instead of Roddy AND Butler.

Thats why there is no Butler+Roddy for borderline star trade. It helps this season but completly sucks the next years.

[Cry Havoc]

It really depends on the enigmatic nature of havoc. What really is to be gained from the nebulous leanings of derelicts? The simplistic notions of others collided with my brain like the metronome of autonomy. As I threw the shuttle into the air and felt it's weight against the force of my stroke, I was reminded of her again. The girl. She had a nose ring and read Kerouac. Her evening remembrance was as apt as pure idiom. Had I not already fumbled the presentation of the morning orchids to her, I would have wed her. But instead the woman to be wed was not one of the traditional values of femininity. Rather, this woman had a . And that's how Havoc is exchanged to got.

That's pretty damn hilarious man.