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Historically, no. That would be an innovation.
I just wonder why no one ask the person being aborted.
Guess they have no rights. According to law.
Historically, no. That would be an innovation.
What's wrong with a sonogram? All he is wanting to do is show the woman that there is a beating heart, and the development of life, so she can make an actual informed decision.
Extra cost, for one thing. Also, if a woman doesn't want to look at the sonogram, then why should she have to? I think it's silly to mandate a sonogram by law.
Also, if a woman wants to make an informed decision, doesn't she have the liberty to inform herself? Pretty sure there's info about babies on the internet.
Spot on. I would add the waste of time...
If you want to force informed decisions by law, I suppose you would support mandating that pro-life centers explain to pregnant teenagers that abortion is an option, and the steps one would take to get an abortion?
So without the sonogram the woman can't be making an informed decision? Pretty sure that if she's made it to the abortion clinic she's already figured out that it's not a giant bran muffin that's growing inside of her.
This is a very difficult thing to go through..so let's just add to it!
wtf do republicans/"conservatives" want sancho littering the population with his offspring...whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Reps/conservs and their gd obsession with abortion
I wouldn't put anything past this new wing-nut TX legislature...but this issue is so controversial I have a feeling that Perry is just pandering to the wing-nut base for a possible nomination in 2012 for V.P...
Told you a year ago....Palin/Perry 2012...
...yet this nut has been re-elected yet again...
Texas voters.
I'd be curious how this law will be enforced; are we going to have bureaucrats hanging out in doctor's offices to ensure that pregnant women are shown these sonograms? Is there going to be a consequence if the doctor doesn't do it?
You hear the stories from lots of women that have had an abortion how they think about it all the time the rest of their life.
I guess maybe i'm in a cave but I don't hear many women saying they wish they would have had an abortion.
I think its a lot of "close your eyes and its not really happening. Nothing wrong with a "is that your final answer?" picture to make sure you're not making it a lifetime regret for you.
Wondering what percent of the pro choice crowd hasn't had the life changing moment of holding their own newborn? I know a lot of my liberal friends have made the choice not to have any children.......
ok rick.....stop medicaid and medicare tomorrow....... head.
stop the Indian Health Service, VA and US armed forces medicine....yesterday.
stfu with your bull .
Kind of a false dilemma there. For one thing I doubt there are many mothers who would say in public that they wish they had aborted their child. For another thing, you're giving no consideration to the many women who have gotten an abortion and DON'T regret it.
No there's nothing wrong with it, unless it's MANDATED BY THE STATE. If the woman wants to see a sonogram, she should be given that option, and she should be made aware that she has that option.
I mean should we require restaurants to show all customers a video of the process by which we turn cattle into hamburger meat? Should women have to read a brochure on how their makeup is made before they buy it?
The information is out there for those who wish to find it. It's up to the individual to seek it out, not the state to mandate what boils down to a guilt trip.
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That "is that your final answer" picture is a medical service that costs $200-$300 bucks to perform. Who gets to pick up that tab?
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Yeah because I'm sure you're out there actually talking to women about their decision to have an abortion and I'm sure you're the type of person that they'd go to and open up about such a personal decision and their feelings after the fact.
Its not a cave, its a ing black hole that you live in. I have no clue why you would even think this is something that helps your case.
I think this is a load of you're assuming. I don't think you have the slightest clue what women are thinking.I think its a lot of "close your eyes and its not really happening. Nothing wrong with a "is that your final answer?" picture to make sure you're not making it a lifetime regret for you.
I choose not to have children. That may change in the future but thats the way it is for now. Its definitely a life changing experience, but there is a reason the studies out there show that people who have children are less happy than those who don't have children.Wondering what percent of the pro choice crowd hasn't had the life changing moment of holding their own newborn? I know a lot of my liberal friends have made the choice not to have any children.......
If you want to have noisy little s that are expensive as then thats fine, but I swear to god if there's one thing that I'm sure annoys a lot of people out there is the mindset that you're displaying.
I mean how in the could people actually make the choice to not have children and instead pursue careers and actually explore the world and do things that parents never have the opportunity to do? How could they possibly not be so in love with their own genetics that they feel the need to add mini me's to an already overpopulated globe? What the is wrong with your liberal friends?
There's a chance that, while regretting it, some mothers would still think it's the right thing to do.
I think the whole "people with children are less happy" idea is somewhat misleading. I think the question should be whether people with children feel that it was worthwhile. I'm not "happy" when I'm given a difficult job at work, but I feel satisfaction/worth.
Just to be clear LnG, I think its perfectly possible to be happy with children and I honestly don't care which segment of parents or non parents is happier. My annoyance is with the prevelent view - and this is just a personal pet peeve - that you somehow can't be as happy or happier without children. Its such a crock of .
Being a political conservative can not go hand in hand with being a religious conservative who wants to impose those beliefs on others. Be consistent.
I know exactly what you mean. I even get it sometimes because I only have one child. I had a man I do not even know grill me at this fancy dinner about why I only have one child. Truth be told, I only ever got pregnant once in over a decade of marriage despite never using birth control, but it is none of his business whether it was by choice or cir stance.
Everyone should be saying that. This is a completely unneccessary procedure.
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