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he also knocked down bats, blocked Durant, have twins, I don't think Kobe can do that
he is more efficient. that is nonnegotiable.
but still I would not call him better than Kobe.
Kobe is slightly better than him at this point in their careers.
he also knocked down bats, blocked Durant, have twins, I don't think Kobe can do that
Not this season. Hollinger has kobe 5th and Manu 18th (IIRC) ... in Player EFFICIENCY RATING ...
I do think Manu should get more votes for MVP than Kobe though ...if the season ended today. he just has made a bunch of clutch plays that have contributed to the spurs start.
I was agreeing with you
Well obviously I suck at trolling haha. I guess I'll stick to being a normal poster who isn't ridiculously annoying. Well not all of the time at least like your Laker trolls..
Has he blocked Yao ... multiple times? Nah uh
Whatever Manu has done this season it's better than laying down for the Suns like he did during The Skunker.
Christ-a-mighty, even I couldn't look after awhile.
Kobe deserves to start and Manu deserves a selection. Both are great.
lol laker fans thinking they didn't get trolled
Pretty bad
Hey ...Manu is Kobe's whipping boy...Manu can't play in the Allstar because of Kobe...wah wah wah....Manu is the guy that would have been had not Kobe existed...
LOL!
Stat happy internet fanboys make me laugh.
They both deserve their respective picks - Kobe starts and Manu plays some with him - they have great mutual respect - period!
On page 16 of The Art of a Beautiful Game, while waxing about Kobe’s over-compe iveness, author Chris Ballard drops this little quote from No. 24: “‘I love Manu,’ says Bryant. ‘He plays exactly the way I play, balls to the wall.’”
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...inobili-no-31/
Underrated. It might be the most overused word in sports. As hoop-aholics we always beat our chests and stand on the curb shouting about how our favorite player gets no love. Therein lies the roundball rub. Our arguments are often dismissed because of our allegiances. This case for Manu Ginobili’s greatness can’t be. Why? Because as a Houston native, I loathe the San Antonio Spurs. I can assure you that no bias exists here. I went to college twenty-five minutes away from San Antonio and had to listen every day about the San Antonio Spurs dynasty. I made it my mission to debunk the fantasies Spurs had about their team. The thing is that the more you examine Manu’s career, the better he becomes. In fact, Manu may be the most underrated, there’s that word again, player of our generation.
How well-rounded is Ginobili’s offensive game? A New York Times article regarding Shane Battier, the defensive student of the game that he is, studied the very subject. Battier is given data to study every opponent. The results speak for themselves. “Manu Ginobili is a statistical freak: he has no imbalance whatsoever in his game,” the article offers. “There is no one way to play him that is better than another. He is equally efficient off the dribble as he is off the pass, going left and right and any spot from on the floor.” It’s true. You’re just as likely to get beaten by a quick slash to the lane as you are a bucket from behind the line when it comes to Ginobili. He can score from anywhere. On any other team he would be a perennial All-Star.
But it’s not about that. See, unlike other players who are too caught up in the “importance” of getting starter’s minutes (see Allen Iverson), Manu Ginobili kills ‘em softly any way the team needs him. He doesn’t mind letting Timmy and Tony have their names on the marquee, even though he could lead the team in points and assists. He just keeps on keeping on and counts the championship rings at the end of the day.
The word clutch has become synonymous with Kobe Bryant but it’s an undeserved association. Yeah, you guessed it, Manu’s the real heir to the last minute throne. Forbes did a study chronicling the top players in the last five minutes of a game including overtime. It wasn’t even close. Manu topped the list and shoots lights out at a 57.4% clip. Your boy Kobe? 44.8%. Do I have your attention yet?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=ginobma01
It is uncanny that these two have have had almost the identical shooting percentage against each other (0.423 Manu vs. 0.422 Bryant with Manu better on the three shooting 37% vs. 30% - Kobe scores a lot @ 26 PPG vs. about 16 PPG but has played about 10 minutes more per game). In the last four or so years Manu has scored with Kobe in a few games or been right there with him (27, 24, and 32 points in some of his head to heads when Bryant had 29. 24, and 22) interestingly for what it is worth although Bowen was guarding Bryant some of that time , Manu is more often now guarding Bryant.
Bottom line when Spurs face the LAL - having to put Manu out there against Kobe is about as good as it gets in regards to a near as possible equivelence at the SG position (other than Wade) and both Kobe and Manu flat out deserve all star status with Kobe deserving to start.
this just show how great Manu is, He's been doing this as not being the main man in the team, unlike Kobe that he is the star of that team and demanding help
You could do worse than being compared to either player, Manu or Kobe. Which is having a better year is a moot point, because it's a team game.
What hurts The Compost Man (aka Manure) is the same thing that hurts Duncan:::their chronologic inability to go back-to-back.
if manu was the leader of his team, he would have no rings. replace kobe with manu the past two years, the lakers may not even get out of the first round either year.
Sometimes Phil hits it square.
This is one of those times.
Kobe thinking he plays as hard as Manu is the funniest thing I heard all day.
Manu has the athletic ability of a dog, the strength of a woman, the fragility of Bynum, got a big nose, a bald spot and looks white and goofy out there.
yet he still manages to put crazy stats and is a good of better than Kobe in the clutch.
But, Manu can't go back-to-back. Makes his strength of a woman look puny in comparison.
i think manu is incredibly skilled. id say hes honestly about even to kobe in terms of skills, and in some ways he is even more skilled (his craftiness in getting to the rim is something ive never seen before), but physically, he is considerably inferior. if he had kobes athletic ability, id say he would be every bit as good or better than Kobe. unfortunately for him, he doesnt have that ability, and thats why he will never be better than a #2 option on a team that contends for a championship.
Yep, Phil has it right:::Manure is a second banana.
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