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Just like Kobe...
What sets them apart is the physical ability. Kobe is and has been athletically superior.
Just like Kobe...
What sets them apart is the physical ability. Kobe is and has been athletically superior.
I was agreeing with you
2 rings as #1 banana
Debatable. Could not survive playoffs with Odom, Bynum and Phil until Gasol got there.
I understood the whole Kobe vs Lebron debate..... but Kobe vs Manu? Damn.... there's some homers on this board.
Btw, Kobe is still the best player in the league. He'll show you why yet again come playoff time.
The problem though is got loses credibility when the cully endorses him.
Manu couldve been a #1 guy on a team tbh. His teams wouldve been compe ive too, maybe not championship level but definitely compe ive. He's won at every level where he's been the #1 guy...I dont get how people can sit there and say if he was ever that in the NBA his teams would suck. His olympic run should be enough, he took a squad with some nba talent, but definitely not the most talented team in the tournament to the gold medal. Won the world championships prior to that too.
Ginobili = 3rd best shooting guard in the league end of story. Kobe/Wade are almost on a separate tier above him. Ginobili holds his own on a separate tier after those two. And then it's everybody else (Kevin martin, etc)
Hands down worst post in this thread.
There's really no debate between Lebron and Kobe.
One has 2x League MVP, one doesn't.
Like in 2005?
You mean, MVPau will show us...
you suck at analyzing bball tbh
kobe hasnt been the best player in the league in yrs
It's Kobe on the top tier, then Manure on a separate tier beneath Kobe, then the remainder. I don't buy Wade. I ain't denigrating his ring. I wouldn't do that. But, I want to see him do that again before I judge him higher.
It's true, Fk. Kobe is the best player in the league. & 55 is right: it's not even close.
NBA coaches, GMs, current players and past legends all tend to agree Kobe is still the best player on the planet.
Fanboys on Spurstalk see things different...
Gee, I wonder which perspective holds more weight.
We'd like to see Kobe win a ring without a Superstar big man and we'll judge him accordingly.
pure delusion
even u know that isnt true, cubby.
Looks that when they had to actually vote, they handed the League MVP trophy to Lebron... twice...NBA coaches, GMs, current players and past legends all tend to agree Kobe is still the best player on the planet.
Fanboys on Spurstalk see things different...
Gee, I wonder which perspective holds more weight.
I am not sure I buy that one -Manu assuming he was healthy and playing a few more minutes would have most likely gotten the LAL out of the 1st round at least.
No knock on Kobe who is and has been better of course the better player; but the difference between the two as compe ors and players is not that great and do not underestimate the value of how well Gasol and Manu would play together - they would throw crazy and effective passes around.
Some rankings to consider NOTE in one year at least by Hollinger's PER Manu was greater than Bryant:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...sg/league/west
1) Bryant 3) Manu
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...west/year/2010 1) Manu higher than 2) Bryant.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...west/year/2009
1) Bryant 3) Manu Roy is there and if healthy is certainly in the tier right below Bryant and Wade and alongside Manu IMO
lol Laker fans trolled so easily
Pau is not a superstar, lol.
It doesn't matter what NBA coaches and GM's say, anyone who disagrees with a spurs fan and their homerism is clearly an idiot. Wake up man.NBA coaches, GMs, current players and past legends all tend to agree Kobe is still the best player on the planet.
Fanboys on Spurstalk see things different...
Gee, I wonder which perspective holds more weight.
Lol, GMs, coaches, legends and players don't vote for League MVP putz.
That would be a national panel of journalists.
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