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    accused of defrauding the school system of two years of educational services for the girls.
    if this is a felony then they ought to go after the school district next

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    I would agree that a felony charge seems severe, but it's hard to feel to sorry for a liar that knows what they are doing wrong to begin with.....and then was given a chance to stop.
    I don't feel bad about someone who is lying to make life better for their child. This is just ing ty. When a rich person games the system they get off with a slap on the wrist so ing often it disgusts me but when someone does something like this that is ultimately not even selfish they get screwed beyond what any reasonable person considers OK.

    like this just pisses me off so much.

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    I think she got what she deserved. 10 days is a nice warning shot and it is a felony. Hopefully she doesn't pull this kind of stunt again. I wouldn't want her working for me knowing she has no problem tampering with records.
    Well, if it is true that this is "what she deserved," then we have an issue as to why 39 others didn't get "what they deserved". If the issue is so black and white, why wasn't so black and white for everyone?

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    I don't feel bad about someone who is lying to make life better for their child. This is just ing ty. When a rich person games the system they get off with a slap on the wrist so ing often it disgusts me but when someone does something like this that is ultimately not even selfish they get screwed beyond what any reasonable person considers OK.

    like this just pisses me off so much.
    I feel bad for the kids and again, I don't like that it's a felony charge.

    Life being unfair, however, is not a good enough excuse to try to cheat or steal from the system.

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    Well, if it is true that this is "what she deserved," then we have an issue as to why 39 others didn't get "what they deserved". If the issue is so black and white, why wasn't so black and white for everyone?
    The superintendent said the other cases were resolved in residency hearings.

    From what I gather here, the mother either failed to show up for her scheduled hearing from the school district or she failed to provide the proper paperwork to prove residency for the kids and did not proceed to pull them out.

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    TX has 7000 state felony statues.
    Seems a waste of bronze.

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    Well, if it is true that this is "what she deserved," then we have an issue as to why 39 others didn't get "what they deserved". If the issue is so black and white, why wasn't so black and white for everyone?
    That's america as we know it today. "Well, so and so got away with it, why can't I." You do the crime be prepared for the time. She knew she was committing a crime.

    This pisses me off so much. She knew what was coming and she still cried "loud" after getting freaken 10 days in county jail. If she really is around her kids as much as she implies she is, this might be a nice break. 10 days is nothing.

    Sorry Manny, I 100 percent disagree with it's ok to lie to make a better life for your kid.(You show me where this is the only choice the mom had I may feel a bit different) She got caught, 10 days in the pokey and will have this on her record. Hopefully when she looks for a job, if she even works, she can have a boss super cool like Manny that would understand why she would do something like that and hire her.

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    The superintendent said the other cases were resolved in residency hearings.

    From what I gather here, the mother either failed to show up for her scheduled hearing from the school district or she failed to provide the proper paperwork to prove residency for the kids and did not proceed to pull them out.
    That's makes perfect sense.

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    The superintendent said the other cases were resolved in residency hearings.

    From what I gather here, the mother either failed to show up for her scheduled hearing from the school district or she failed to provide the proper paperwork to prove residency for the kids and did not proceed to pull them out.
    Right, but the issue I have with that is the school district is now, in a sense, getting to decide who will be prosecuted for a felony and who won't based on whether someone agrees to submit to whatever ad-hoc administrative procedure they've set up.

    Also, if the State is aware that 39 others have committed the same offense, the State has the discretion to go forward with a case regardless of the school district's position. If you're going to enforce the law, enforce it.

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    That's america as we know it today. "Well, so and so got away with it, why can't I." You do the crime be prepared for the time. She knew she was committing a crime.
    I seriously doubt that she was aware she was committing a felony offense. It appears that they used the value of the education to charge the offense as a felony.

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    It's funny to contrast the le and opening sentence of the same story from ABCNews and Fox News -

    Ohio Mom Kelley Williams-Bolar Jailed for Sending Kids to Better School District

    By ANDREA CANNING and LEEZEL TANGLAO
    Jan. 26, 2011—

    An Ohio mother's attempt to provide her daughters with a better education has landed her behind bars . . . .
    Education Scam Gives Ohio Woman a Lesson in Jail Time
    Published January 26, 2011 | FoxNews.com

    An Ohio woman was jailed after she made an attempt to place her daughters in a better school district without paying taxes for their education . . . .

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    Right, but the issue I have with that is the school district is now, in a sense, getting to decide who will be prosecuted for a felony and who won't based on whether someone agrees to submit to whatever ad-hoc administrative procedure they've set up.
    It's up to the prosecutor to accept or reject the complaint from the school district.

    If the school district feels it has gone as far as it can go without resolution, what would you propose they do instead of filing a complaint with the courts?

    Also, if the State is aware that 39 others have committed the same offense, the State has the discretion to go forward with a case regardless of the school district's position. If you're going to enforce the law, enforce it.
    You are assuming that 39 others knowingly falsified records.

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    fwiw

    she was released by the judge today after only serving one day
    http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-bl..._schooled_blog

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    I feel bad for the kids and again, I don't like that it's a felony charge.

    Life being unfair, however, is not a good enough excuse to try to cheat or steal from the system.
    Steal from the system? Really? This is a total crock of .

    When a parent has to do things like this to get their kids a better education its not stealing from the system its a complete example of how broken the system is. There is no reason that kids in the same country and same state much less the same ing city should be subject to such an inferior education that their mother has to do something like this. Its especially stupid considering their father was paying property taxes within the district in question.

    She's a citizen of the state and country that provides for that school districts funding.

    Stealing? that bull .

    And thats not even considering the punishment. The punishment is so incredibly excessive and will do nothing but cost the state MORE money in the long run. Its counter productive in every sense of the word.

    There is absolutely nothing to take from this situation that is positive. Nothing.

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    Sorry, how about......................


    I like the Spanish one


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    Steal from the system? Really? This is a total crock of .
    I don't disagree it's a system, but they are still considering prosecuting for theft. It is what it is.

    When a parent has to do things like this to get their kids a better education its not stealing from the system its a complete example of how broken the system is. There is no reason that kids in the same country and same state much less the same ing city should be subject to such an inferior education that their mother has to do something like this.
    or she could move to that school district.

    Its especially stupid considering their father was paying property taxes within the district in question.
    not their father. her father.

    she could move in with her father.

    There is absolutely nothing to take from this situation that is positive. Nothing.
    Hopefully it just fans the fire, shedding brighter light on how crappy the system still is.

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    Steal from the system? Really? This is a total crock of .

    When a parent has to do things like this to get their kids a better education its not stealing from the system its a complete example of how broken the system is. There is no reason that kids in the same country and same state much less the same ing city should be subject to such an inferior education that their mother has to do something like this. Its especially stupid considering their father was paying property taxes within the district in question.

    She's a citizen of the state and country that provides for that school districts funding.

    Stealing? that bull .

    And thats not even considering the punishment. The punishment is so incredibly excessive and will do nothing but cost the state MORE money in the long run. Its counter productive in every sense of the word.

    There is absolutely nothing to take from this situation that is positive. Nothing.

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    Shine light on how broken the system is? Blake you're saying she got what she deserve and there are a lot of people out there saying the same thing. Look at the way it was reported on Fox News.

    People don't think the system is broken. They just see another poor person breaking the law and getting what they deserve. This isn't going to change and a person who was about to become productive with a degree and add to our society has just been knocked down and her kids with her.

    Its just bull . I'm not disputing that she broke the law but the law isn't there so we have a justification to punish people. Laws are in place to protect the people of our society and no one is being protected here. This isn't a case about technicalities and to view the technicalities as anything more than a shallow representation of what happened here and what it means is incredibly wrong.

    I hope your right about it shining light, but I'm extremely skeptical and pessimistic about that.

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    Apparently the Judge tried to get it reduced to a misdemeanor but the prosecutor would not budge. Thats so disgusting.

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    From what I gather here, the mother either failed to show up for her scheduled hearing from the school district or she failed to provide the proper paperwork to prove residency for the kids and did not proceed to pull them out.
    Even if the other people pulled their kids out when they got caught, they still had committed the same crime. No way she was the only one who was there "unrightfully" so. They used the supposed value of the educational costs to charge her with a felony. Wouldn't everyone else have "stolen" too?

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    Shine light on how broken the system is? Blake you're saying she got what she deserve and there are a lot of people out there saying the same thing. Look at the way it was reported on Fox News.

    People don't think the system is broken. They just see another poor person breaking the law and getting what they deserve. This isn't going to change and a person who was about to become productive with a degree and add to our society has just been knocked down and her kids with her.

    Its just bull . I'm not disputing that she broke the law but the law isn't there so we have a justification to punish people. Laws are in place to protect the people of our society and no one is being protected here. This isn't a case about technicalities and to view the technicalities as anything more than a shallow representation of what happened here and what it means is incredibly wrong.

    I hope your right about it shining light, but I'm extremely skeptical and pessimistic about that.
    I think a felony charge is excessive and I've said as much.

    I would like to know why the prosecutor was pushing so hard for a felony charge and why it took the jury 7 hours to reach a verdict.

    I would also like to know how much the school district tried to warn her of the consequences before the complaint was filed.

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    I looked up the demographic make up of the school district. 86% white. I'm shocked. I wonder how many predominately black school districts in the greater Akron area have the resources to to hire PIs to make cases like this?

    Had this been a misdemeanor then everyone could move on quite easily. I support the mother doing what she did even if its illegal, but I doubt I get upset if she's caught and found guilty of a misdemeanor. She gets her probation and moves on gets her degree and betters herself and her kids but pays a price. But this is just wrong.

    To me, I see so much racism in this case. A poor black woman gets denied the same opportunities white children have and has to deal with a complete and utter failure of the justice system. Its so damn wrong.

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    Even if the other people pulled their kids out when they got caught, they still had committed the same crime. No way she was the only one who was there "unrightfully" so. They used the supposed value of the educational costs to charge her with a felony. Wouldn't everyone else have "stolen" too?
    Give a specific example for us to compare and contrast with this case.

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