Manu better than Kobe THIS season. Facts don't lie.

[JayTheClown]

what kind of ing dumbass post is this?

if you remove duncan, the spurs may not even make the playoffs in some or all of the years they won it all with manu on the team.

so so ing true

[Phillip]

Debatable. Could not survive playoffs with Odom, Bynum and Phil until Gasol got there.

no . cant win a ring without someone to take the pressure off of you. Odom and Bynum at the time werent capable of that. Bynum MAY be now, although he gets hurt too much.

duncan probably wouldnt have won any rings without robinson or manu at his side for his rings.

jordan probably wouldnt have won any rings without pippen.

magic wouldnt have been winning rings without kareem.

[Phillip]

I am not sure I buy that one -Manu assuming he was healthy and playing a few more minutes would have most likely gotten the LAL out of the 1st round at least.

No knock on Kobe who is and has been better of course the better player; but the difference between the two as compe ors and players is not that great and do not underestimate the value of how well Gasol and Manu would play together - they would throw crazy and effective passes around.

Some rankings to consider NOTE in one year at least by Hollinger's PER Manu was greater than Bryant:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...sg/league/west

1) Bryant 3) Manu

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...west/year/2010 1) Manu higher than 2) Bryant.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...west/year/2009

1) Bryant 3) Manu Roy is there and if healthy is certainly in the tier right below Bryant and Wade and alongside Manu IMO

i think you may set the record for spending more time trying to make a post look like it has quality. its like trying to remove chunks of nasty ass undigested food from a turd. no matter how much time you spend improving the quality of a piece of , it will always remain just that. . like your post.

[JR21]

[diego]

i think manu is incredibly skilled. id say hes honestly about even to kobe in terms of skills, and in some ways he is even more skilled (his craftiness in getting to the rim is something ive never seen before), but physically, he is considerably inferior. if he had kobes athletic ability, id say he would be every bit as good or better than Kobe. unfortunately for him, he doesnt have that ability, and thats why he will never be better than a #2 option on a team that contends for a championship.

i agree with this, the main difference is physical- manu doesnt have the strength and stamina of a great franchise player like kobe. though I would add that for spurts manu can play better than anyone else on the planet, as he has in the 04 olympics, 05 playoffs, and stretches of the 07-08/09-10 seasons.

even if talking just about this season so far, manu's recent slump deflates the argument before it even starts.

[Rummpd]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...sg/league/west

Revised

Kobe 1 Manu 2 in shooting guards in the West. Kobe is the better player and deserves fully the start but Manu deserves a spot and the gap between the 2 is less than LAL homers realize. Last year Manu had a player efficiency rating > than Bryant and also in head to head compe ion over the last 3-4 years has had a number of similar stat lines to that of Bryant. The main difference is flatly that Bryant is more durable and plays more minutes.

[Phillip]

i like to post high quality

[Dayum78]

Big Z and Shaq are the only two significant minutes-getters that left. Jamison, Mo Williams, Varejao, JJ Hickson, Boobie Gibson, Anthony Parker... they're all there. They also added Sessions. Went from best record in the league to worst.

Varejao is injured. Before he went down they had a winning record and was above miami for a cool minute. Big Z and Shaq is a big shoe to be filled and you expect jj and jamison to fill that role?

[Rummpd]

Dear Phillip ala Mavs fan:

You only wish the Mavs had or could pick up either a Bryant or Manu instead of the non winning over-hyped wannabees the Mavs have put out at guard over the years - either one of these two would have assured the great Dirk would not go ringless.

[Greg Oden]

[hater]

Dear Phillip ala Mavs fan:

You only wish the Mavs had or could pick up either a Bryant or Manu instead of the non winning over-hyped wannabees the Mavs have put out at guard over the years - either one of these two would have assured the great Dirk would not go ringless.

I would be nicer to mavfan if I were you. Carlisle is about to unleash French Zeus up on this biatch

[urunobili]

lol Phillip in denial
CROFL all non Spurs fans trolled by the thread

[ElNono]

Varejao is injured. Before he went down they had a winning record and was above miami for a cool minute. Big Z and Shaq is a big shoe to be filled and you expect jj and jamison to fill that role?

JJ Hickson played more minutes than both Shaq and Big Z last season, when they had the best record in the NBA. Heck, Anthony Parker played more minutes than both combined. Jamison is a good player. I don't think that's up to debate.
Sure, the Varejao injury hurts, but he's no franchise player either. That team was Lebron and a bunch of scrubs. Now we definitely know.

[Phillip]

Dear Phillip ala Mavs fan:

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[Phillip]

im stupid

[Phillip]

lol Phillip in denial
CROFL all non Spurs fans trolled by the thread

where is the denial? you expect me to say that manu is equally athletic to kobe?

stupid smelly argie

lol hitler lover

[ElNono]

[Phillip]

im stupid

[ElNono]

[Phillip]

im stupid

[ElNono]

[Phillip]

im stupid

[Blake]

Dear Phillip ala Mavs fan:

You only wish the Mavs had or could pick up either a Bryant or Manu instead of the non winning over-hyped wannabees the Mavs have put out at guard over the years - either one of these two would have assured the great Dirk would not go ringless.

yes!

high five, dude!

[ElNono]

[jjktkk]

Spurs fans think I'm a got.