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Because Gino's competing with SGs. Tony's competing with PGs. And there's more PGs playing better ball than TP in the Western Conference. Same thing can't be said for SGs.
I've always wondered why inspite of Manu's and Tony stats being almost at the same level, Manu's ( 19 points , 5 Assists) vs Tony's (17 points , 7 assist), the consensus opinion is Manu is more valuable to the Spurs and its unquestionalbe leader.
(ESPN pics Manu as the number one pick for all Star reserve, while Tony is not an all star )
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...-star-reserves
After analyzing their stats, it boils down to when they produce ( 4th quarter points, assist, steals etc) that explains the reason why Manu is generally considered as the Spurs MVP and go to guy and Tony is not.
Tony is just avg 15 % (2.7 pts) of 17 point avg in the 4th quarter (one of the lowest % of all NBA players avg 15 or more points) . While Manu is averaging a 42 % ( 7 points) of his 19 point avg in the 4th quarter ( one of the highest in the NBA) . I haven't checked but it's the same case for assist as well ( Manu get's most of his assist in the 4th vs Tony )
So now you know, what most people beleived, but could'nt point to exactly why: One produces when it counts the other piles stats early
Because Gino's competing with SGs. Tony's competing with PGs. And there's more PGs playing better ball than TP in the Western Conference. Same thing can't be said for SGs.
Lol the easts squad is not nearly as good. West should run away with it
because the places are limited and as you noticed with the stats, Manu is used more than Tony in the 4th
OP needs a lesson on the concept of PER. This isn't 2001...we don't compare players by looking at points per game, assists per game, etc in isolation anymore.
Tony is "Beaver" to Manu's "Wally." Pop is "Ward." & "June" is played by Kor I. Ellis in the ingenue role of a lifetime. Luva will play "Eddie Haskell." DPG will play the fire hydrant out front.
I take it you're the Mike Nelson in all this.
Get back in the basement Cully, where you belong...
I totally forgot it was Gary Neal who hit that game winner in Mexico City
It's like a morgue down there. I wanted to come up here and peek under some kimono's. Anybody see Swords around?
She was bent over in Mexico City, eh? Splains the vomiting part.
The fact I have a role is all I ask. The Hydrant. No flash, and you don't appreciate it until you need it.
Sounds right up my alley.
wheter one plays PG of SG is irrelevant for all star selection chances. as voters (coaches) are not asked to differentiate SG or PG but simply to pick 2 guards plus an extra 2 wildcard (can be any position) .
Coaches are not picking Westbrook ( a PG who plays like SG) over Martin because Westbrook is PG and Martin is not, their picking Westbrook over Martin because he simply is playing better. If Tony or any PG like Nash is playing better than Manu they would be selected over Manu in regardless of their guard position they play.
this article is great in order to manu to be an AS. Previous years that he deserved to be as well he didn't have any lobby and national attenntion to get in, even if he was playing the same way as this year's (in 08).
I remember in 05 everybody was speaking about him and his recent gold medal.
lol crossing borders without going through customs
Neal with it
Manu's been great in the 4th this year. However, I don't think the coaches that vote are going to analyze all that. They'll probably just glance at their basic stats (points/assists/FG%) and think about who impacted the particular games that were played against their own team.
If one of them goes, I prefer it's Manu. But I can see a scenario where neither of them is picked.
Because he is Manu Ginobili
True Kori but I've hearing commets during NBA analysis and games about him being "fantastic" and "MVP type season". Those comments weren't there only in 05. He's getting national attention and that's positive.
Coaches might not go into the detail of analyzing 4th quarter production prior to making their picks. But you have to admit a players "clutchness" has a huge lasting impression in how people vote. And likewise if a player chokes or disappers in the 4th , that must make a huge bad impression on how one views a player. So yeah , absolutely how one performs when it counts most does matter a lot
Oh I agree -- especially early in the year, he was getting tons of national praise. I think Manu has his best shot that he's had at making the AS game in a long time.
I'm just saying that the coaches who are voting don't go into as much detail as the original poster. They just basically glance at the stats and think about who has done well against them (which this year, Manu has done really well against many teams).
just because Manu is a better player ???
When you see Love in the reserve you know the analyst is bad
maybe Griffin will go with Stern but Love is a statman in a losing team like Ellis
Manu feed his teammates when his shot is "off", he makes the team better without the ball in his hands.
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