Haters gonna hate...
And maybe this thread would be more relevant with the true stats:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...27/splits.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/bas...80/splits.html
Tony and Manu deserves to go.
TP is playing great this season and is as important as Manu for the Spurs
we need both...
Why do people care about the All-Star game? I really don't get it.
All that is important is that TP and Manu are both healthy and playing at a level that is good enough for the Spurs to have a shot at a le.
If Tony would just pass the ball both he, Manu and Larry Owens would make the All-Star game . . .
Not a chance. Ginobili is a lock and was before the season even started. Duncan, Nowitzki and Williams are, too.
Parker will probably get snubbed and it'll be reasoned that there is just too much compe ion at the point in the West and too many deserving players in the West period. There's definitely some truth to that, but the reality is the Celtics are probably getting four All-Stars and if in fact they do, then there's no excuse for the Spurs to not get three.
I love how winning always mattered . . . until the Spurs were running away with the best record in the league (and doing it unexpectedly, to boot) and there was a ridiculously exciting player and a white player leading the way when it came to "good stats/bad team" guys. Then all of that went out the window and suddenly numbers mattered more than winning. Many debate whether Duncan should be there, let alone even mention Parker.
The Duncan debate is ridiculous. He's done what Garnett's done for three years, but when he does it, now scoring average matters and defense, rebounding, leadership, winning at a ridiculous rate, etc. are out the window. No one ever debated the merits of Garnett being selected when he was throwing up 13/7 and playing under 30 mpg and he's not as good as Duncan.
it'd be a dream to have the big three there! TP deserves it as much as Manu tbh
pistons had a worse record and had 4 starters in the allstar game
yes east sucks but what
all three should go
If those are the right stats, where did the original poster get his stats?
tp shoots better
Lmao Ducks
Imo the Big 3 all have a case for getting in. Duncan should be the replacement for Yao to honor the best record in the league since the Spurs won't have any starters otherwise and he's still one of the best bigs. Parker should get in since he's having a career year in assists without having to play career high minutes and is one of an aggressive and efficient scorer.
But I think Manu has a pretty solid case over Parker since he's the leading scorer on the team with the best record and Manu's one of the most clutch in the league when it comes to doing all it takes to get the W.
I also think Ginobili's heroics is still fresh in coaches minds from the second half of last season which was simply a spectacular performance for any player; he basically carried the Spurs for that stretch.
But as always the West is stacked. For example looking at other teams its kinda crazy that Deron Williams only has one all star appearance
spurs in the east would have 4 all stars
tbh, I don't know where the numbers came from, but this appeared on the ESPN Weekend Dime yesterday:
2.7: The Lakers' Pau Gasol, averaging 2.7 points in fourth quarters, has the lowest fourth-quarter scoring average of any player in the league's top 60 scorers. San Antonio's Tony Parker is No. 59 at 2.8 points per game in the final period.
EDIT: Looks like those are numbers for this past week
No surprise, Monroe thinks the Big Three should be there.
NBA All-Star Game: Deserving reserves...Third in fan voting, Ginobili has been the best clutch performer for the league’s top team, statistics failing to quantify his value to the Spurs.
...(Parker's) ability to create offense for 39-7 Spurs can’t be overstated; Spurs’ record rationalizes his spot on All-Star roster.
...Even at a career-low 29.4 minutes per game, Duncan remains a force in the paint, a top-10 rebounder and shot blocker.
Mike Monroe
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...ving-reserves/
Yep
Manu is better
No argument, manu is better.
TP FG = 52 %
MANU FG = 43 %
Yes no Argument !!
You can also look at FG on the first quarter. TP put his team on a good way in each game !
And Manu scores in the 4th
When it matters the most
Tony Parker true shooting percentage = 57.1
Manu Ginobili true shooting percentage = 59.6
Zing, I win.
Field goal percentage is an absolutely awful statistic. It doesn't take into account the fact that shooting 40% from 3 point land is statistically equivalent to shooting 50% from 2 point land, and in case you haven't noticed, Ginobili shoots the 3 quite a bit...and makes quite a bit.
True shooting percentage encompasses all of that, and more (free throw%) to give you a nice, neat number.
And by the way, true shooting percentage isn't some arbitrary pulled-out-of-the-ass stat geek formula. It's a mathematical fact.
No need to use Manu's brilliant 4th quarter scoring to rationalize his relatively greater usefulness to the team. He statistically is more efficient overall. In fact he's one of the most efficient shooting guards in the league.
Quick disclaimer: I love Tony Parker (not in a gay way) and I would love to see him on the all star team. I'm not trying to start yet another Tony vs Manu thread, I was merely correcting facts.
The first quater ! When your team takes the head at the beginning of the game, the whole game is more easy. When Manu scores in the 4th, sometimes, it's after bad shooting game in the first quarters. I'm not a Manu hater, I love this player but I don't understand how Spurs fans can not see the qualities of TP.
I think TP is very consistent actually and I'm sure that Pop asks to the top players to play softly (no risk) . There are three all stars in the team : a big fundamental TD, a little fundamental TP and a flashy player with extraordinary qualities Manu.
(sorry for my bad english)
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