ESPN Power Rankings (meh....)

[Brutalis]

I agree, even scoring margin is imperfect for that reason alone.

Doc Rivers kept his starters in the game till the very end against the Lakers.

Pop pulls his starters during blowout victories or obvious losses. It's not uncommon to see us up 30 and Pop pulls the starters early in the 4th, allowing the opposing team to come back and "only" lose by 12-15 points.

That's why I believe Pop is such a masterful coach. Of course he makes mistakes but still. He takes out his best guys in an obvious loss when most teams would not. He looks at it like, why injure my best in a meaningless regular season game?

Our margin of victory ranks in the top 4 correct?

SO, imply the thought of what if Pop left the starters in an obvious win, inflated our score to win by even more and we might be leading the league in margin of victory.

I am curious to know where we stand league wise in average margin of loss.

I suppose you did misunderstand, because as stated earlier, I was focusing on the fact that apples are not oranges. So, Wilt's NBA is not Dwight Howard's NBA. I am not stating that those records would be proportionally worse in todays league.

[jestersmash]

If you consider the mid-90s "this day and age" then you can't ignore the 95 Rockets 2.1 pt differential vs the teams they beat: Utah +8, Phoenix +3.8, and the Spurs +6.6.

Well bear in mind, no one statistic is 100% accurate.

Scoring margin is simply a better predictor of championship success than win-loss record. Neither is 100% accurate, but scoring margin is more accurate than win-loss record.

[Agloco]

I suppose you did misunderstand, because as stated earlier, I was focusing on the fact that apples are not oranges. So, Wilt's NBA is not Dwight Howard's NBA. I am not stating that those records would be proportionally worse in todays league.

Mebbe I'm not being clear. Tends to happen when you're writing grants for long periods of time......What I'm trying to drag out of you is this:

Is what the Spurs are doing more impressive or less impressive than yesteryear based on history?

I don't care about the "championship prediction" angle. In the end, there isn't a stat that predicts the winner.

[jestersmash]

That's why I believe Pop is such a masterful coach. Of course he makes mistakes but still. He takes out his best guys in an obvious loss when most teams would not. He looks at it like, why injure my best in a meaningless regular season game?

Our margin of victory ranks in the top 4 correct?

SO, imply the thought of what if Pop left the starters in an obvious win, inflated our score to win by even more and we might be leading the league in margin of victory.

I am curious to know where we stand league wise in average margin of loss.

Scoring margin isn't just for victories, it's for all games.

Say you play two games - you win the first by 5 points (+5) and you lose the second game by 5 points (-5), your scoring margin is 0.

The +7.xx scoring margin of the spurs, which takes into account both victories and losses, is top 4 in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/pow...s/_/sort/vmarg

It's actually 1st in the NBA, as you can see, but Boston/Miami/LA are all pretty close.

Interestingly, LA has dropped to +6.xx since I last checked, and Chicago has moved up to 6.xx (over 5.xx).

The most impressive part about our scoring margin is we've been doing it against tougher opponents, overall. L.A. has had a cakewalk schedule. Our SOS is tops among all championship contenders.

[Brutalis]

Scoring margin isn't just for victories, it's for all games.

Say you play two games - you win the first by 5 points (+5) and you lose the second game by 5 points (-5), your scoring margin is 0.

The +7.xx scoring margin of the spurs, which takes into account both victories and losses, is top 4 in the NBA.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/pow...s/_/sort/vmarg

It's actually 1st in the NBA, as you can see, but Boston/Miami/LA are all pretty close.

Interestingly, LA has dropped to +6.xx since I last checked, and Chicago has moved up to 6.xx (over 5.xx).

The most impressive part about our scoring margin is we've been doing it against tougher opponents, overall. L.A. has had a cakewalk schedule. Our SOS is tops among all championship contenders.

[spurs1990]

Ok so who are the other 7 teams then?

Y'all say '73 Boston.
Gotta have the '92, '95, & '96 Bulls.

Wonder who the other 3 are?

[lefty]

Ok so who are the other 7 teams then?

Y'all say '73 Boston.
Gotta have the '92, '95, & '96 Bulls.

Wonder who the other 3 are?

No
73 Celtics didnt win the le

[duncan228]

NBA Power Rankings: How would you feel about a Spurs/Celtics NBA finals?
Kurt Helin
ProBasketballTalk

Our weekly NBA Power Rankings, where we’re thinking that the finals could be Spurs and Celtics because no teams are executing anywhere near their level right now in crunch time.

1. Spurs (40-7). They are now 7.5 games ahead of the second place Lakers in the Western Conference (and 4 ahead of Boston for the best record overall). They will be the West’s top seed. Here is the real question: Can they beat the Lakers in a seven-game series? They certainly can beat the Lakers team that played Sunday.

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2. Celtics (36-11)
3. Heat (33-14)
4. Bulls (33-14)
5. Magic (31-17)
6. Lakers (33-15)
7. Mavericks (31-15)
8. Hornets (31-18)
9. Thunder (30-17)
10. Hawks (30-18)

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...cs-nba-finals/

[Agloco]

Ok so who are the other 7 teams then?

Y'all say '73 Boston.
Gotta have the '92, '95, & '96 Bulls.

Wonder who the other 3 are?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171370

There are 6 others. The Spurs are the seventh:

64-65 Celts 40-7
66-67 Sixers 43-4
71-72 Lakers 41-6
82-83 Sixers 40-7
95-96 Bulls 42-5
96-97 Bulls 42-5

[spurs1990]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171370

There are 6 others. The Spurs are the seventh:

64-65 Celts 40-7
66-67 Sixers 43-4
71-72 Lakers 41-6
82-83 Sixers 40-7
95-96 Bulls 42-5
96-97 Bulls 42-5

So outside of those Prime Jordan Bulls, the NBA has not seen the likes of 40-7 since 1982.

Absolutely unreal

[ALVAREZ6]

Mebbe I'm not being clear. Tends to happen when you're writing grants for long periods of time......What I'm trying to drag out of you is this:

Is what the Spurs are doing more impressive or less impressive than yesteryear based on history?

I don't care about the "championship prediction" angle. In the end, there isn't a stat that predicts the winner.

I wouldn't pretend to know the answer because I never witnessed those leagues of the 6 other teams firsthand.

[SenorSpur]

Indeed it was.

Especially when you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex, as do I, and you hear how city officials and sports talk shows, were already planning and discussing championship parade routes, after the team went up 2-0 on the Heat, in the '07 Finals. Oh, such a sweet meltdown.

As usual with the Mavs, from players, ownership, and fans, they all have a way of prematurely crowning themselves victors before the race is over.

It's such a joy to walk into the AAC and see that the only team banners hanging from their rafters are the Western Conference Championship and assorted Division Championship banners.

Typical Mavs. Always frontin' and posin', but rarely closin'.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Ding Ding........

Why does everyone think Mavs right away?

Because when you think of not winning it all you automatically think of the Mavs.

[Sean Cagney]

I would have guess the team that did not win it all next would have been the Pistons in 06 after we beat them and they went on a damn tear and looked invincible all year long! Then they lost in the damn playoffs to the Heat! Pistons looked sick that year, but lost in the end after that tear.

Especially when you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex, as do I, and you hear how city officials and sports talk shows, were already planning and discussing championship parade routes, after the team went up 2-0 on the Heat, in the '07 Finals. Oh, such a sweet meltdown.

As usual with the Mavs, from players, ownership, and fans, they all have a way of prematurely crowning themselves victors before the race is over.

It's such a joy to walk into the AAC and see that the only team banners hanging from their rafters are the Western Conference Championship and assorted Division Championship banners.

Typical Mavs. Always frontin' and posin', but rarely closin'.

That series brought the biggest smile to my face sides a Spurs le! I forever will love Wade for it


I will rmember I gave up on that series man! I went to the movies to see The Omen and come home to see the Heat won a game!!!!!!!! I think then I said oh well it's one game, they then went on to win the next three.