Cav's fan bustin' our chops.
tee, hee.
Gasol
Artest
Shannon Brown
Bynum
Luke Walton
Odom
Joe Smith
LOL@ Dumping Farmar, DJ & Sasha & Keeping Luke, Ebanks, Caracter…Wait Mitch did sign Theo & Joe Smith…![]()
Cav's fan bustin' our chops.
tee, hee.
LOL@ Luke, Ebanks, Caracter, Theo, Joe Smith & 91 mil payroll…![]()
me. I'm gettin' my rearranged by a Cav's fellow.
He's in deep Cubby, but that's ok. I'm sure Mitch is on the horn with your Tennessee farm team as we speak. This will end end well have no fear.
agree. very stupid to let farmar go, he was the only decent thing in that bench. And sasha at least kept the guys happy in the shower room.
now Kobe has to vent his frustration on Gasol's asshole and it's affecting the team's chemistry
Farmar couldn't be trusted in the Walton mode.
Trading Vuj was a mistake. He got into Jackson's doghouse and could never re-emerge from it. That trade was an act of vengeance.
I rue the day it happened. It wasn't right. It was wrong on many levels. We owed him for those two free throws. Like we owed Horry for that 3 pointer Vs. the Kings.
We failed both those men.
I believe Shannon Brown has a no-trade clause in his contract, he's not getting moved unless he wants to leave.
ADDENDUM:::we had a final chance to do right by Horry. I think it was two years ago (before the Orlando Finals) around the trade dead line he was loitering the team looking for a job with us, and Jackson wouldn't give him the time of day.
Does anyone else remember that?
This.
Flip the script a lil bit. Bench Fisher and start Blake, bring Odom off the bench and put Bynum back to the bench.
Gasol plays a lot better with Odom. This also allows Bynum to get more touches from the second unit.
90 million dollars and they gotta hit the panic button
You think their salary situation is bad now, wait 2 yrs from now when Kobe at 34 yrs old and his 30 million salary kicks in
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By then Culby will be a Suns fan.![]()
That's when you remember the 6 last second game winners Bryant executed that enabled us to be California every time the hit the oscillator in the 2010 Playoffs & Finals.
Or, when he went to front of the rim 3 times in the 4th Quarter Game 7 and made the refs grant on him.
Or, when he couldn't get it off goin' up, at the top, or, comin' down and had the selflessness to let Artest attempt it at the end of Game 7.
We owe. It never ends.
It never ends what we owe Magic for '84 and for he did thereafter in '85.
We owe. It never ends.
Ever.
I can't see the Lakers making a trade, at least not one significant enough to warrant a shake up.
Lamar is going nowhere as he is the most valuable role player on this team.
Bynum likely won't be moved because he's overpaid and a risk for other teams to take and there's no one comparable on the market available anyway.
Gasol is the darkhorse for me. He's obviously the best player who could be traded that could yield a legitimate star in return. Imo, he is the player most underachieving right now but in doing so it would place even more emphasis on Bynum's health holding up for the long haul and that would likely be a fatal mistake.
Artest seems like the likely candidate to be moved because he's not producing as much as he probably should but with his salary he couldn't yield a significant player anyway.
All things considered I say the Lakers stand pat.
Keep dreamin old man. The end is near but unlike Frank Sinatra Kobe wont did it his way.
No, but, he'll get close. He's already close.
It's enough for me, but, it'll never be enough for him (Kobe), or, for his detractors/haters ("you"), because "your" story about Bryant was written already and "you" can't bare to re-write it, re- le it. It's beyond what "you're" capable of.
You're only human, and I ain't no better.
I'm already Suns fan. You don't have to support a team to be a fan of a team.
Magic has now chimed on the subject via ESPN:
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6080446
And Phil backed Mitch's comments that the "door's open for business" regarding trades.
http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakers...iss-tonig.html
Obviously they've sat down and conspired over this. I still agree with the first poster who said it's a ruse to inspire the team.
cubby you arent in mid season form. what happened?
Kori has my bean bag in a lock box on her make up table. And then she threw DoK's bean bag on top of mine.
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Could Culby be losing a step?
Phil ting bricks his last season will end in failure.
Lakers' Ron Artest hopes for trade
By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Archive
True Hollywood story: Being traded from the L.A. Lakers would be a dream come true for Ron Artest.
GM Mitch Kupchak, coach Phil Jackson and LA icon Magic Johnson just did what franchise pillars of their stature rarely do -- something Lakers officials never do, really -- by announcing to the world that the teetering two-time champs might need to make a trade.
Why?
Simple.
The Lakers have been so uncharacteristically public about the potential benefits of an injection of new blood because they know, with a league-high $90.4 million payroll and such limited trade assets, that threatening this locker room with a shakeup move is a far simpler gamble to execute than shaking things up with an actual deal before the Feb. 24 trading deadline.
However ...
I'm told that there's at least one prominent Laker who hopes he's the guy who gets shipped out in the next 20-odd days.
One source close to the situation insists that Ron Artest wants out.
Asked to react to that, Artest's agent David Bauman declined comment.
This is where I'm obligated to remind you that no one in the NBA can change his mind faster than the famously fickle Ron-Ron. Another pertinent disclaimer: Artest's play has been sufficiently sluggish in the second season of a five-year deal that whatever he wants is bound to be greeted by shrugs and scoffs, no matter how much he gave the Lakers in the epic final game of last season.
I've nonetheless been assured this week that Artest -- though he hasn't outright demanded a trade and is likely to publicly deny it -- is serious about wanting to be dealt somewhere "he can have fun again" less than a year removed from the pivotal role he played in that ring-clinching Game 7 with Boston that the Lakers so nearly squandered.
This much I can say about the source: It's not Artest's provocatively tweet-happy brother Daniel.
Yet many of the same complaints Daniel Artest revealed Tuesday via his Twitter feed were cited as reasons that Artest, leading into Tuesday night's home win over Houston in which he logged just 5.5 seconds of playing time in the fourth quarter and overtime, is hoping for a new address. He might have rewritten the way he'll be remembered when he retires by proving so remarkably reliable in the biggest game of his life -- while Kobe Bryant was shooting 6-for-24 in a Game 7 at home -- but the honeymoon sure sounds over.
Artest's two main beefs?
1. He's weary of being scapegoated for the team's struggles and feels that he's destined to always absorb the bulk of the blame no matter what happens because Jackson and Bryant are so dependent on the more glamorous contributions of Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom and will never publicly go after regal Laker lifer Derek Fisher.
2. As we heard at various points during his stops in Indiana, Sacramento and Houston, Artest is eventually going to squawk if he's being marginalized in the offense, which inevitably disengages him from his defensive responsibilities. (Relegated "to the corner shot" is the way Daniel Artest described it -- except that he said "regulated" and surely meant "relegated.")
It was stressed to me that Artest has actually coexisted better with Jackson since it emerged in December that Artest asked his coach to stop criticizing him so publicly and keep displeasure in-house. Despite Artest's increasingly regular stints on the bench in crunch time, I get the distinct vibe that settling for offensive scraps in the shadow of Kobe and Pau while absorbing the hottest heat on afternoons like Sunday when Paul Pierce erupts for 32 points has soured Artest far more than Jackson's frequently sharp tongue.
The reality, of course, is that Artest is not very tradable no matter how much he'd like to be relocated. Not with the way he's producing and moving.
The Lakers want to believe focus has been Artest's bigger problem as opposed to advancing age. They cling to the hope that he can still deliver physicality and reliability when the game slows down in the postseason and between-games rest can refuel Artest and others, too.
Yet it seems safe to suggest that the 31-year-old, producing career-low numbers almost everywhere you look on the stat sheet, has given prospective suitors fresh reason -- piled onto the old baggage that dissuades teams that don't have the Lakers' conviction or a Jackson to manage the situation -- to balk at taking on a contract that still has three years and nearly $22 million remaining after this season. Especially in this climate of widespread fear about how restrictive the league's next labor pact will be.
None of that, though, has convinced Artest to back off. Not yet, anyway.
Dare I say he's been fined too many times to get sucked into publicly asking out -- which is obviously a legit dare in this case -- but I continue to hear that this is more than mere venting and that a trade is what Artest is rooting for.
Which means the Lakers have 22 days to somehow find a destination for him ... or 73 days before the start of the playoffs to diffuse the biggest Artest crisis they've faced so far and get
him plugged back in after essentially trading away Trevor Ariza to get him.
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