Is Internet Access A Human Right?

[Wild Cobra]

Where is the line?

If you tax newspapers, based on their contents, with a $500 each tax, does that deny you access?

Apply that to those who employ people, and it has the effect of taking jobs away.

[Wild Cobra]

link?

(to something other than infowars.com\ noiamnotreadingthat ?)

This is one of those things that sounds 1/4 true. Some grain of truth wrapped in paranoia, seuted in rumor juice.

I've heard it on reliable radio programs. I'm sure it's on the internet somewhere.

[Wild Cobra]

This image and that legislation should concern us all...

Are you sure that isn't an image of what are economy will look like with all this liberal tax and spend legislation?

[LnGrrrR]

You think so? Wouldn't it be mildy humorous to see more urban cities looting TV's to prove there point about media being shut down?

I'd have a hard time believing that the U.S. could every pull off a protest like Tunsia did and only riot/protest to prove their point.

Well, I didn't mention looting specifically, but that could certainly be included under the "rioting" category

[nkdlunch]

is healthcare a human right?

[Yonivore]

is healthcare a human right?

Nothing, in which you would have to force others to provide it, is a human right. No person has the right to the fruits or labors of another; that includes health care.

[Proxy]

Nothing, in which you would have to force others to provide it, is a human right. No person has the right to the fruits or labors of another; that includes health care.

Yeah. helping other people. Everyone born into poverty deserves to die without sufficient aid, and education. It's the American way.

It's the most efficient way to keep minorities down where they belong too, and to keep the whites in power.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Yeah. helping other people. Everyone born into poverty deserves to die without sufficient aid, and education. It's the American way.

It's the most efficient way to keep minorities down where they belong too, and to keep the whites in power.

How can you say that? We are country that was founded on Judeo Christian values.. at least that's what the right continues to complain about.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

[ChumpDumper]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life*, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

*If you can afford it.

[Yonivore]

Yeah. helping other people. Everyone born into poverty deserves to die without sufficient aid, and education. It's the American way.

It's the most efficient way to keep minorities down where they belong too, and to keep the whites in power.

No one is claiming you should be prohibited from helping anyone. Just that no one has the right to demand it.

Actually, the American way is a lot more charitable than you give credit.

Creating some "right" out of whole cloth so the government can inefficiently administer a program that will undoubtedly fail a good many it proposes to aid, only diminishes the wealth many of us would willingly contribute to care for those who needed it.

[George Gervin's Afro]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

caveat " Life saving treatment is only if you can afford it"

[ChumpDumper]

No one is claiming you should be prohibited from helping anyone. Just that no one has the right to demand it.

Actually, the American way is a lot more charitable than you give credit.

Creating some "right" out of whole cloth so the government can inefficiently administer a program that will undoubtedly fail a good many it proposes to aid, only diminishes the wealth many of us would willingly contribute to care for those who needed it.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life*, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

*If the mechanism for preserving life is efficient enough for yoni.

[Yonivore]

caveat " Life saving treatment is only if you can afford it"

So, if a surgeon is constantly required to give his services away or, if his income is so reduced (due to his forced provision of services) that he can no longer justify the exorbitant cost of his education, liability insurance, and overhead; what do you think will happen?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So, if a surgeon is constantly required to give his services away or, if his income is so reduced (due to his forced provision of services) that he can no longer justify the exorbitant cost of his education, liability insurance, and overhead; what do you think will happen?

He'll quit and go on unemployment? Skip out on his student loans? You tell me

[Blake]

So, if a surgeon is constantly required to give his services away or, if his income is so reduced (due to his forced provision of services) that he can no longer justify the exorbitant cost of his education, liability insurance, and overhead; what do you think will happen?

what do you think the average salary currently is for a surgeon and in your opinion, what would the average salary be after a "forced provision of services."

[Yonivore]

what do you think the average salary currently is for a surgeon...

A lot, and worth every penny.

...and in your opinion, what would the average salary be after a "forced provision of services."

Lower.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

The future is not a gift: it is an achievement. Every generation helps make its own future. This is the essential challenge of the present

[Blake]

A lot, and worth every penny.


Lower.

a penny lower won't make anyone feel sympathy for them.

[Yonivore]

a penny lower won't make anyone feel sympathy for them.

I don't they're concerned with your sympathy.

Here's something for you to consider. I know a surgeon that not only hes 10% of his income to religious-based medical charities and his church; he also travels twice a year, for a month, with Doctors Without Borders, to provide free surgery that is restoring people to independent lives.

As his income is reduced, so is his ability to be charitable.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I don't they're concerned with your sympathy.

Here's something for you to consider. I know a surgeon that not only hes 10% of his income to religious-based medical charities and his church; he also travels twice a year, for a month, with Doctors Without Borders, to provide free surgery that is restoring people to independent lives.

As his income is reduced, so is his ability to be charitable.

He'll quit and go on unemployment? Skip out on his student loans? You tell me

So he will still practice medicine...

[Yonivore]

So he will still practice medicine...

Actually, he's indicated to me, he may not.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Actually, he's indicated to me, he may not.

So what? Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

[Yonivore]

So what? Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

Nope.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Nope.

There wil be other doctors if this guy wimps out.