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    For those of you who said the Senate would never allow the repeal to come up for a vote; it'll come to a vote between 5 and 6 P.M. Eastern, tomorrow, according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

    I seem to recall Harry Reid saying this wouldn't happen...

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    I thought it was going to happen today...

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ay_541205.html


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    Actually, it looks like it's going to be today, and the reason is that there's two other actually useful amendments voted on too...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...09-503544.html

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    The first sentence in your link...

    The Senate will likely vote today...
    It's still happening and, according to the man that sets the calender, that is tomorrow between 5:00 and 6:00 P.M. Eastern.

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    Senators will vote late Wednesday afternoon on whether to overturn the health care law, a symbolic action driven by fierce opposition to the law among Republicans.

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    Actually, it looks like it's going to be today, and the reason is that there's two other actually useful amendments voted on too...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...09-503544.html
    I love this quote from your article...

    In a statement, Reid hammered Republicans for forcing the vote, saying, "The time for fighting old battles is behind us."
    Is he not aware of the challenges this law is facing in the courts? Old battle, indeed.

    Then this...

    "[T]hey want to replace the law of the land with a broken system we know doesn't work," he said. "They want to replace patients' rights with insurance companies' power. They want to replace health with sickness. They want to replace the promise of tomorrow with the pain of yesterday."
    The "law of the land" of which he speaks is hanging on by a thread. And, then he devolves into the new liberal civility -- which, by the way, looks pretty much like the old liberal civility; Republicans want to kill you and give all your money to rich people.

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    Senators will vote late Wednesday afternoon on whether to overturn the health care law, a symbolic action driven by fierce opposition to the law among Republicans.
    There are 13 Democrats searching their souls and polling data, right now...that'll be the indication of how "symbolic" is this measure. It's still a very real amendment of a very real measure and very real Senators will be forced to cast very real votes that will be viewed by very real cons uents that cast very real votes.

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    There are 13 Democrats searching their souls and polling data, right now...that'll be the indication of how "symbolic" is this measure. It's still a very real amendment of a very real measure and very real Senators will be forced to cast very real votes that will be viewed by very real cons uents that cast very real votes.
    No doubt.

    Tell me, what are your expectations?
    Personally, I expect this to be nothing more than a symbolic vote.

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    No doubt.

    Tell me, what are your expectations?
    Personally, I expect this to be nothing more than a symbolic vote.
    I think the Democrats release at least two of the most vulnerable among them to vote yes.

    I also think the Republicans will force this onto every piece of legislation between now and 2012. And, that cons uents of the most vulnerable Democrats up for re-election in 2012, will be encouraged to let their feelings be known to the Democrats who hope to continue representing them.

    I also think the Democrats are watching the courts.

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    "Republicans will force this onto every piece of legislation between now and 2012"

    yep, wasting their time (aka taxpayer money) while the economy remains mired in the Banksters' Great Depression

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    "Republicans will force this onto every piece of legislation between now and 2012"

    yep, wasting their time (aka taxpayer money) while the economy remains mired in the Banksters' Great Depression
    No I think it's a great plan ....continue to beat the dead horse and hope that people remember.. or rather the 51% who support repeal..

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    There are 13 Democrats searching their souls and polling data, right now...that'll be the indication of how "symbolic" is this measure. It's still a very real amendment of a very real measure and very real Senators will be forced to cast very real votes that will be viewed by very real cons uents that cast very real votes.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law


    Health Care Law
    58% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, But Confidence in Repeal Is Down
    Monday, January 31, 2011 Email to a Friend ShareThis.AdvertisementMost voters continue to favor repeal of the national health care law, but now that the Republican-run House has voted to repeal and sent it on to the Democratic-controlled Senate for action, confidence that the law ultimately will be repealed has fallen to its lowest level in four months.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 58% of Likely Voters at least somewhat favor repeal of the health care law, including 47% who Strongly Favor repeal. Thirty-eight percent (38%) oppose repeal, with 29% who are Strongly Opposed. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

    Support for repeal has ranged from 50% to 63% in weekly tracking since Democrats in Congress passed the law in March of last year.

    But only 41% of voters say it’s at least somewhat likely the law will be repealed. That’s down eight points from early January and the lowest level measured since the beginning of October. Forty-six percent (46%) say repeal is unlikely. These findings include 17% who say it’s Very Likely and 16% who feel it’s Not At All Likely.

    While most Republicans (54%) believe repeal is at least somewhat likely, 50% of Democrats and a plurality (49%) of voters not affiliated with either political party disagree.

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    The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on January 29-30, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

    Roughly half (49%) of all voters say the health care plan will be bad for the country. That figure has remained in the high 40s and low 50s since passage of the bill in late March of last year. Forty-one percent (41%) say the new plan will be good for the United States.

    Forty-four percent (44%) believe repeal of the health care law will be good for the economy, while 30% say it will hurt economic conditions in the country. Fourteen percent (14%) feel repeal will have no impact on the economy, and another 12% are not sure. These findings have changed little since April 2010.

    When it comes to job creation, voters have mixed feelings. Thirty-two percent (32%) say repeal will create new jobs, the highest finding since last August, but 36% disagree. Thirty-three percent (33%) are not sure what the job impact will be.

    Although the Congressional Budget Office claims repealing the health care law will increase the federal budget deficit, a plurality of voters disagrees with that assessment. At the same time, most voters feel free market compe ion will do more to cut health care costs than government regulation.

    Democrats continue to believe more strongly in the health care law than do Republicans and unaffiliateds.

    Voters trust Republicans, by a 52% to 38% margin, more than Democrats to handle the issue of health care. In December, Democrats had a slight 45% to 43% edge, but it was the first time President Obama’s party had led on the issue since July of last year.

    On a list of 10 important issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports, health care falls second behind the economy in terms of importance to voters.

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    The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on January 29-30, 2011 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
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    I think the Democrats release at least two of the most vulnerable among them to vote yes.

    I also think the Republicans will force this onto every piece of legislation between now and 2012. And, that cons uents of the most vulnerable Democrats up for re-election in 2012, will be encouraged to let their feelings be known to the Democrats who hope to continue representing them.

    I also think the Democrats are watching the courts.
    So you don't expect the repeal to succeed? IOW, you also think it's symbolic?

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    So you don't expect the repeal to succeed? IOW, you also think it's symbolic?
    I think it's a vote that needs to be on the record. Call it what you want.

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    I think it's a vote that needs to be on the record. Call it what you want.
    it's a big deal to republicans and no one else...

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    it's a big deal to republicans and no one else...
    I think it's part of a long-term strategy.

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    I think it's part of a long-term strategy.
    Actually, you might be right. That being said, the GOP has not exactly wowed me with strategies, lately.

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    Actually, you might be right. That being said, the GOP has not exactly wowed me with strategies, lately.
    Okay.

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    I think it's part of a long-term strategy.
    for thier base or independents?

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    for thier base or independents?
    ...long-term strategy to repeal Obamacare.

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    I think it's a vote that needs to be on the record. Call it what you want.
    Okay

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    Chump, stupid is stupid is stupid. Is health care
    the same as slavery and discrimination. I dont
    think so!

    You seen any one dying on the streets lately
    from lack of healthcare. On the other hand
    how many sex slave cases have you seen?
    I am serious as a heart attack. Slavery still
    exist in our country while health care is
    available to everyone.

    That is a fact.

    (cue in boutons)
    Tell me how many cases of legal, state sanctioned slavery you have seen.

    I'm serious as a heart attack.

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    Wow conservatives won't allow people to eat or shop in peace..

    typical
    But it's OK when liberals do it?

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    Obamacare is done. Just a matter of time guys and gals. Just a matter of time.

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    So what happened? Did it get repealed?

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