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  1. #76
    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    Ploto, do you know if that map displays the ERCOT mandated rolling blackouts, or is it just the incidental weather related power outtages or both?

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    i really hope they cut the power off at my job tonight

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    southwest side. No power outage here. My friend down two street said her power went out around 9am. My neighbor asked if the water was out. I was like no my water still works...gonna shower.

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    damn, how can expensive engineers design power plants sensitive to cold weather?


    "more than 50 power plants stopped working Tuesday night because of the cold weather.

    Burst water pipes at two plants, Oak Grove and Sand Hill, forced the plants to cut power production, Dewhurst said he was told, and natural gas plants that should have provided back up had difficulty starting due to low pressure in the supply lines, also from the cold weather.

    Comision Federal de Electricidad, Latin America's largest power company by sales, was reportedly sending 280 megawatts to Texas, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday afternoon.

    Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...#ixzz1CqWl1ZV9

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    Ha Ha TX bailed out by MX. that's rich!

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    News here in Corpus is that they plan to continue this until Sunday. If I get a blackout during the super bowl I'll have ing heads.

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    Thats ing pathetic. The temps experienced in Texas should have been WELL inside the tolerance levels of any power plant. It wasn't THAT cold.

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    Ploto, do you know if that map displays the ERCOT mandated rolling blackouts, or is it just the incidental weather related power outtages or both?
    I don't know. I did not find it until after the rolling blackouts seemed to have ended.

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    The temps experienced in Texas should have been WELL inside the tolerance levels of any power plant. It wasn't THAT cold.
    I seem to recall hitting 18 to 20 degrees about this time last year.

    Maybe, they just got people all worked up more this time. I went to HEB today and you would have thought a hurricane was hitting the way people wiped out the shelves yesterday.

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    CPS can suck my ing .


    They lied #1 this morning. Supposedly they said, 15 minutes tops. Fine. I know I was down for AT LEAST 45 minutes. that.

    I find it funny that none of Stone Oak went down. I assume its due to the hospitals there (they should be on their own separate circuit though probably, different arguement), though I wouldnt be shocked if it was because of their median income over there.

    CPS ed up royally today and they ed up bad. It's one thing to be forced to turn off some of the power. Its another thing to basically go around like your ing head is cut off and do it without informing ANYONE.

    Someone told the CPS top exec, hey maybe you should notify the media about this so they can let people know. The exec, ya maybe thats a good idea, we will look into that in the future.

    them.

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    Since 1979 Das Texan's Avatar
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    damn, how can expensive engineers design power plants sensitive to cold weather?


    "more than 50 power plants stopped working Tuesday night because of the cold weather.

    Burst water pipes at two plants, Oak Grove and Sand Hill, forced the plants to cut power production, Dewhurst said he was told, and natural gas plants that should have provided back up had difficulty starting due to low pressure in the supply lines, also from the cold weather.

    Comision Federal de Electricidad, Latin America's largest power company by sales, was reportedly sending 280 megawatts to Texas, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday afternoon.

    Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...#ixzz1CqWl1ZV9

    =========

    Ha Ha TX bailed out by MX. that's rich!


    I think thats a bull excuse, but whatever. Like Manny said, there is NO WAY temperatures in the teens should have brought down so many plants. Someone didnt do their ing job.

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    I seem to recall hitting 18 to 20 degrees about this time last year.

    Maybe, they just got people all worked up more this time. I went to HEB today and you would have thought a hurricane was hitting the way people wiped out the shelves yesterday.
    Northern Texas was below zero so I'd imagine thats were the power plants were located but below zero temps in northern Texas aren't unheard of. It happens - rarely - but it does happen.

    Its just unacceptable for this to occur.

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    For the record, Oak Grove is out by Bryan/College Station and Sand Hill is in Austin.

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    "I seem to recall hitting 18 to 20 degrees about this time last year."

    There was coldspell of 3 days last Jan where daytime was mid 30s max, and night lows in low 20s/high teens. Lots of Queen palms and other barely hardy but quite old plants died.

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    Burst water pipes at two plants
    How many engineers does it take to set the faucets to drip?

    No outages in my neighborhood yet. Guess it pays to live near richers.

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    How many engineers does it take to set the faucets to drip?

    No outages in my neighborhood yet. Guess it pays to live near richers.
    that man. I live in Olmos Park and my power went out 3 different times today.

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    I seem to recall hitting 18 to 20 degrees about this time last year.

    Maybe, they just got people all worked up more this time. I went to HEB today and you would have thought a hurricane was hitting the way people wiped out the shelves yesterday.
    People shop more when a cold snap is coming. We actually get emails about the forecast so we can order more product for this.

    But it was also the first of the month, WIC, food stamps, government checks and bi-monthly checks all came in yesterday. Very busy shopping day all around.

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    Northern Texas was below zero so I'd imagine thats were the power plants were located but below zero temps in northern Texas aren't unheard of. It happens - rarely - but it does happen.

    Its just unacceptable for this to occur.
    I think it was the speed of the temperature drop that did it.

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    It looks like we may avoid any blackouts tonight.

    ERCOT, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, said rotating power outages may not be necessary today, unlike Wednesday when rolling blackouts hit Houston and much of the state.

    The rolling blackouts are still possible especially between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m., but ERCOT officials said the condition of state's power grid is improving despite heavy consumer demand created by the winter storm raking portions the state.

    ERCOT, which manages the flow of electric power in much of the state, will be monitoring the grid to determine if the statewide rotating outages need to be ins uted again because of unexpected losses of power generation.

    Consumers are urged to conserve their power use, particularly during peak demand periods.
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7410936.html



    "I'm frustrated, my wife is frustrated : the people of Texas are frustrated," said Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. "That's one of the things I'm going to spend my afternoon on, since the cold weather will be continuing for a few days, to make sure this doesn't continue."
    more by David Dewhurst - 3 hours ago - Dallas Morning News
    Good bit on the particulars for those interested:

    Feb 3 (Reuters) - ERCOT, the power grid operator for most of Texas, said immediate concerns of rotating blackouts were reduced Thursday morning as some generation returned to service overnight. ERCOT said about 3,000 megawatts of generation remained out of service Thursday morning due to the extreme cold. On Wednesday, ERCOT said more than 50 power units, capable of generating about 7,000 MW, were out of service.

    The following lists a few of the major power plant outages from Feb. 2 and the reason those plants shut.

    * Luminant's 568-MW Unit 4 at the Sandow coal-fired power plant in Texas shut on Feb. 2 after a feed water flow low suction alarm. The alarm was triggered by a faulty feed water flow transmitter line that froze. Luminant expected the unit to return later on Feb. 2. [ID:nN02240920]

    * Texas Municipal Power Authority's 470-MW Gibbons Creek coal plant in Texas shut on Feb. 1 after the cold weather stressed many systems, including electronic level indicators and their transmitters. Specifically, the company said the drum liquid level indicators had frozen. TMPA said it was using heaters to unfreeze the affected systems but did not say when
    the unit would return. [ID:nSGE71204H]
    * NRG Energy Inc's (NRG.N: Quote) 831-MW Unit 1 at the Limestone coal-fired power plant in Texas shut on Feb. 2 due to problems with phase disconnects and insulators. NRG expected the unit to return on Feb. 2-3. [ID:nN02291579]
    The following table lists the number of customers affected
    by the rolling blackouts:
    UTILITY CUTOMERS AFFECTED TOTAL CUSTOMERS CUSTOMERS DURING ROTATION AFFECTED SERVED
    Oncor --- --- 3,000,000
    CenterPoint 330,000 --- 2,000,000
    AEP 90,000 600,000 946,000
    San Antonio
    CPS Energy 70,000 --- 707,000
    Austin Energy 70,000 --- 400,000
    TNMP --- --- 230,000
    *El Paso Electric --- --- 372,000
    * El Paso Electric is not part of ERCOT but the U.S. Department of Energy said El Paso began its own rolling blackouts on Feb. 2 after the cold weather shut down all eight of its local generators, leaving the company reliant on purchased power to serve customer demand. [I am guessing somebody's head will be on a stick for that one.--RG]
    (Reporting by Scott DiSavino in New York and Soma Das in
    Bangalore)
    http://af.reuters.com/article/energy...21006020110203


    Of course our state legislature will probably find *some* money despite the deficits to address the problem....
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local...ate-texans.ece
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 02-03-2011 at 11:58 AM. Reason: formatting

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Here is where the ercot press releases can be found in their original form:

    http://www.ercot.com/news/press_releases/

    As of right now their most current (6:34am_) statement:
    Grid condition improving but conservation still urged

    The grid continues to have about 3,000 MW of generation out of service due to the effects of the extreme cold

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Most recent bit I could dig up here:

    http://www.kztv10.com/news/expect-mo...outs-thursday/
    Expect More Rolling Blackouts Thursday

    edit:

    LINK BROKEN, story removed at source. Probably due to cancellation of blackouts.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 02-03-2011 at 04:03 PM.

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