Can anyone provide either a direct overhead shot or a sharp baseline angle picture/video that definitively refutes any Laker fan's argument of Mcdyess' tip-in as a goaltending? Thank you in advance.
Whether it was a goaltending or not... it really didn't matter.
Once the referees allowed it, and called it good, that was it.
They can't check and then change that decision. That's the rule.
What the referees wanted to check afterwards was whether the ball was released before the clock expired.
Let the Lakers fans just cry.
Yes, but there has to be a picture out there that clearly takes away any argument that Laker fans have about the tip being goaltending. I really just need to shut one of them up once and for all about it.
Let the ers whine. The more the do the more you know they feel threatened by SA.
No, there doesn't. The best part about last night's win was its immediate controversy. It's 'bout time LA has something to about that they can't undo.
I'm actually crossing my fingers in hopes that Stern comes out Sun or Mon saying that the basket shouldn't have counted, and that the league extends their apologies, but there's simply nothing they can do at this time.
You can see at 1.06 that it's not goaltending.
There was a show on NBA TV about when a player can touch a ball and the rule that a former ref said was that basically as long as more than half the ball is out of the cylinder they can tip it, I watched the ESPN replays several times and no where does it appear to me he was in the cylinder at all - I think the refs may have honestly missed a charge on Parker but definitely got this one right. LAL's own fault for not boxing out and they deserve to lose giving the Spurs 4x at it anyway. The video above shows same thing!
ALL I CAN SAY IS DICE STILL HAS HOPS!
lol yes!
Pic request: no call of Fish fouling Brent's 3G at game end to eliminate the Spurs.
It wasn't goal tending.
I think you are going about it the wrong way. The call on the court was basket good. Someone has to disprove that. You have got the sequence backwards.
Oh and if they show you a still shot of Dice's hand on the ball above the cylinder, the answer is, that proves nothing. As long as he STARTED the tip with the ball in a legal position, he can bring it over the cylinder to finish. Otherwise every dunk shot or putback would be disallowed.
And, if you look at the video replay, you can see that's exactly what happened. The ball bounces clear of the cylinder, Dice not so much taps it as cradles it and guides it back into the basket from above the rim.
The still they are posting shows him in the guiding process which is COMPLETELY LEGAL.
Dumb asses don't even know the rules, much less anything about the game.
Last edited by YoMamaIsCallin; 02-05-2011 at 12:01 PM.
To the OP more power to you, while i know others mean well by saying ignore the Laker s, it's still nice to have proof positive to shut them up and send them scurrying.
I honestly know that Gasol pulled Dyss down on the out of bounds play with 4 seconds left. As Gasol himself fell to the floor, he knew he had no chance to stop Dyss so simply wrapps his arm around Dyss and pulls him off balance and down. No call of course. Check it out.
It usually has to be REAL obvious for refs to call it offensive goaltending, like the hand is in the cylinder before contact with the ball, or the ball is rolling on the rim.
The ball comes off the back of the iron at an acute angle to the trajectory of the shot, almost straight out, and appears to be roughly half way out of the cylinder, or as much as you can tell in real time by human beings.
I was laughing when it happened, thinking that it was lucky that it wasn't McDyess shooting and Tim trying for the tip. Duncan sucks at tip ins. Anyone remember the bunny two hander he missed at the end of regulation of Game 5 of the 2005 Finals?
If that's goaltending then a lot of putback dunks are too.
I just saw at the 10-second mark...watch asst coach...Chuck Person...he sees the duncan shot...realizes that Duncan missed...begins to raise his arms while walking towards the lockerroom......then watches in horror as Dice bends the lakers over...
A fitting end to a very below par game by Tim.
Somebody posted a link to the Lakers forum in another thread:
http://www.clublakers.com/lakers-gam...27766-560.html
That thread also includes this nice picture posted by Lakerfans themselves.
His FG% and FT% sucked, but he absorbed a lot of fouls by their bigs, grabbed 19 boards, and still managed 26 points, all on two sprained ankles.
I do not remember the Spurs been so happy for winning a regular season game, not sure if it was for the win or if they were happy for Dice.
Nice screen cap by whoever. That ball is at least halfway out.Somebody posted a link to the Lakers forum in another thread:
http://www.clublakers.com/lakers-gam...27766-560.html
That thread also includes this nice picture posted by Lakerfans themselves.
Such a smart play, too. If he tries to dunk it, it's probably after the red light. Only a tip in would work.
Last edited by ChuckD; 02-05-2011 at 12:41 PM.
Whats even better is the white guy(black suit green shirt) on the bench 2nd from the 2 coaches standing up get all excited then bummed within a second. My wife pointed it out and it had us cracking up!
I just saw at the 10-second mark...watch asst coach...Chuck Person...he sees the duncan shot...realizes that Duncan missed...begins to raise his arms while walking towards the lockerroom...
Good catch, that dude made me literally LOL
That wasn't the end of the game.
lol fisher and gasol crying
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