Where is KBP 2.0 when you need him
I'm loving Splitters willingness to mix it up physically even with his thin frame.
Bynum tried backing him down with rump pushes and Splitter simply maintainted position and shoved right back just as hard, as if to say "get that Laker ass out of my face!".
Love the at ude.
Got to continue to give him more minutes on these upcoming b2b's Poppy .
Is the only reason Splitts is getting minutes due to Matty Bonners being out?
I think Pop would disagree with you...there have been very few winners comparable to Manu...besides Manu, only Bill Bradley has a Euroleague le, NBA le, and Olympic gold...
And remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFU-wXsRhic
It seems like Pop actually respects Tiago's toughness...and that's the first sign of trust from the crusty curmudgeon...I think it's very difficult to earn Pop's trust, but once you get it, he'll go down with you...so Tiago's probably on the right path...I'm loving Splitters willingness to mix it up physically even with his thin frame.
Bynum tried backing him down with rump pushes and Splitter simply maintainted position and shoved right back just as hard, as if to say "get that Laker ass out of my face!".
Love the at ude.
Got to continue to give him more minutes on these upcoming b2b's Poppy .
Is the only reason Splitts is getting minutes due to Matty Bonners being out?
Tiago Splitter is one of the craftiest bigs I know about right now offensively, once he adjusts to the NBA the potential is there. And the great thing is that's not his strong suit. His defense right now is looking very solid.
First, you might try to learn HOW TO READ!!!!!!!!!!!!
I asked a question, not made a statement, about you and the Manu sucks issue.
Read before making idiotic replies and maybe your posts would get more respect, and credibility.
And it is pretty obvious that Pop and coaching staff as well as most of the coaches in this league disagree with you about Manu. That goes without saying.
Manu has more than proved his worth, especially in intangibles, to assure his eventual inclusion in the Basketball Hall of Fame, which rarely happens to players of "marginal" or "overrated" ability.
And if you don't agree with that, fine, but you would be in a very very tiny minority on some tiny isolated island somewhere!
Most coaches, and Pop, will heartily disagree with you, and tell you the
Spurs are fortunate to have him, not the other way around as you allege.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and everybody thinks theirs doesn't stink. This definitely comes to mind when reading your posts!
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Manu is the smartest player in the game
definitely a Hall of Famer
i think Manu is even more intelligent basketball wise than Jordan
the only ones who can match Manu in basketball IQ, i think, are Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Rodman and Ramon Fernandez of the Philippines...
Go Spurs go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dead wrong about oberto and you've now lost all credibility.
as to Fernandez......for those who know him....
imagine, just imagine a 6'9 Ramon Fernandez......??
not even Olajuwon could not stop him then........
for "El Presidente" Ramon Fernandez had an array of shots not seen in basketball, before or since....
including the incredible "elegant shot!!!"
a de cuatro in the air, unbelievable.....
Actually, he was matched up against Demarcus Cousins for long stretches. He showed good footwork and made cousins take contested shots. He seemed to frustrate Cousins. He does need more strength because he got rooted out of position a couple of times going for rebounds. All in all, he played pretty well against a talented rookie PF/C. Cousin was clearly stronger than Tiago. He has a little way to go, but he has a lot of potential and, like another poster mentioned, he appears to have the IQ to get there.
If anything Ginobili is underrated. 1 all-star appearance doesn't do him justice and if you think it does you're a moron. Hes been 3rd or 4th best sg every year he's played. Borderline all-star? You just lost any credibility.
people would probably think it is only the nba players who got incredible skills
no!
definitely not
if you watched Sabonis in his prime......
oh cmon!!!
Sabonis was the original point center!!! the center with the most incredible passing skills, and he could hit the three also, imagine...
my point being: there are many, many players outside the nba with incredible basketball skills
and our beloved Manu being the most visible now,
but there were others....
Ramon Fernandez
Oscar Schmidt
Sabonis
Samboy Lim
Allan Caidic (who was Chip Engelland's teammate)
etc etc etc
His trade value will never be higher, we should be actively shopping him right now.
In all honesty, I think Pop hates Splinter (and with good reason). The only way dude will have a meaningful impact is if he (and this has already been pointed out):
- bulks up his upper body in the off-season. he gets punished any time there is contact, which has resulted in drawing charges but once the refs catch on, those will be called less and less. The good thing: anybody can lift weights.
- develops a shot. I haven't seen Splinter make a jumper all year. He simply has to develop a 12-15 ft shot. The good thing: Spurs are experts at this. The bad thing: his fundamentals are so horrible (ahem, nice free throw stroke Tiago) that this could take years
- gets softer hands. Watching him play next to Blair last night showed how soft and magnetized DJBs hands are, while Splinter looks like he is playing without thumbs. The bad thing: not something you can really work on, you either have it or you don't for the most part
sorry guys
it should be: "not even Olajuwon could stop him then...."
wrong grammar, lol
lol you lost all your credibility with that line noob, if anything manu is underrated with all the intangibles he brings
I think his hook shot might come in handy later when he really gets that on lock like Tony's floater. All in all, it was definitely a good showing by him and raises my faith in the boy.
Manu overrated? ... please don't post anything anymore until you play a game of basketball
Some of what you say makes sense especially what he can do, and most probably will do in the off season under coaches supervision.
But thinking that Pop hates him???????? Where did that come from???????
If you had read or seen the last Fans Ask Pop session then you would have a very different perception than that. Pop tended to gush over him and nothing but good things to say about him and his future with the Spurs!
To me Tiago still moves really weird around the rim, in 2 years he'll be beasting for sure though. Keep Blair by his side and you'll have a nice post presence for the future.
It comes from nothing other than gut feel, I could be totally wrong and would be glad to be. But of course Pop is going to tow the company line and praise his players publicly. Just like he's not going to say he hates the ASG and the last thing he wants to do is spend a weekend in LA for a meaningless game; he says "I am honored". The reason I think that is because Pop looks for fire from his young guys and desire to learn. Tiago seems disinterested, I never hear reports of him arriving early and leaving late from practices. I never see him first up off the bench cheering the guys on. I never hear anecdotes from Timmah how Tiago milks his brain and tries to emulate his work ethic and learn everything he can from the greatest PF to ever play. I hope I'm wrong. Everyone here seems to think that being critical of Splinter is Splinter-hate, but the reality is that everyone wants him to develop and dominate and help the Spurs win. Those who are critical just don't see the upside as clearly as those on his jock.
Oh, and one more reason. When Pop loves a player, especially a young one, he will jump their and scream and yell and get up in their face when they make a mistake. This happens to Blair and Neal this season. It happens to Bonner even though he's a vet. It is well do ented how much TP and Manu had to put up with in their first couple of seasons. But I haven't seen Pop lay into Splinter once this season. Maybe his play is perfect and Pop has nothing to say for him to improve on, or maybe he has and I just missed it (although I've watched every game this season). Instead, it seems like Pop is in such disgust with his mistakes that he feels like it isn't even worth his breath.
I see where you are coming from. I recommend that you look back a little bit to the Ask Pop sessions because he was asked this about Tiago and he said Tiago was a very frustrated young man right now but was constantly working with the coaching staff to catch up both before and after games.
And in an interview with Tiago from Brazil he said how Timmy and Manu and Diess are all helping him with advice and encouragement.
I'll do that, although I still don't put much weight behind public statements, the Spurs are never going to throw their own to the wolves or leave a soldier on the battlefield. The "very frustrated young man" thing could also explain why Pop doesn't get in his grill, he may have decided it would be counterproductive at this point.
What about Pops favorite player from last year, George Hill, when did he ever get in his face? I think your "gut feeling" might be a little overrated.
You might wanna check out that hate tank, it's so full is spilling out.Q: Hey Coach Pop, I know there was a lot of unfair expectations put on Tiago Splitter coming into this season. How do you feel he has handled the transition to the NBA?
A: He has done a very good job. He is a very frustrated player right now because he is not getting minutes. He comes in before and after every practice and works very hard. Missing training camp really hurt him, for a lot of reasons that are pretty obvious. He has been behind the power curve the entire year but he continues to work and we're trying hard to find him minutes and hopefully he'll be more of a significant factor by the time playoffs come.
http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/pop_mailbag_1102.html
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