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I like how well blair and splitter play together, they definetly have some chemistry. Blairs pf play has gotten much better, too.
Pop has also said a few times that Tiago is a "tough kid"...for an old codger like Pop to say something like that should indicate a lot about how much respect that Tiago is starting to earn from him...
I like how well blair and splitter play together, they definetly have some chemistry. Blairs pf play has gotten much better, too.
Borderline all-star? Has been gift wrapped an all-star appearance??
In past years he didnt get invites because he was coming off the bench playing under 30 mpg, for the betterment of the team. If anything he's been underrated his entire career for not putting up 25 ppg...but how many of the players that put up those numbers come off the bench and play under 30 mpg? How many have had two all-star caliber players alongside them? How many have been in such a team oriented environment? Look at the Celtics for a similar example and look how upon the formation of their big 3...Pierce's, Allen's, and KG's numbers all went down considerably. Anybody that can look past scoring realizes that Manu has consistantly been the 3rd/4th (now clearly 3rd with Roy's injuries) best SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade the past 5 yrs. You dont even realize how special of a player we have with Manu, kinda sad tbh.
He's gotten on Hill for missed rotations. GH just doesn't make very many defensive mistakes, which is what pisses Pop off.
It was well do ented that pop treated hill differently, then other rookies, nice try though.
No doubt Hill was treated differently, not just as a rook but since he was drafted. So you think Pop sees Tiago as his next favorite player?It was well do ented that pop treated hill differently, then other rookies, nice try though.
It was not for the betterment of the team that Manu was not getting minutes. It was because he was wearing down with the minutes that the true all stars were getting and he went through some injuries. It is hard to argue that a player is better when he doesn't get the stats that the others put up and doesn't log the minutes. Put wade, Kobe, Monta Ellis, Joe Johnson, Jennings, T. Evans, Roy, Paul Pierce, Iguodala all as good if not better than Manu. Manu is closer to 10 for sg then top 3. if you have him as the 3rd best you are overrating him.Borderline all-star? Has been gift wrapped an all-star appearance??
In past years he didnt get invites because he was coming off the bench playing under 30 mpg, for the betterment of the team. If anything he's been underrated his entire career for not putting up 25 ppg...but how many of the players that put up those numbers come off the bench and play under 30 mpg? How many have had two all-star caliber players alongside them? How many have been in such a team oriented environment? Look at the Celtics for a similar example and look how upon the formation of their big 3...Pierce's, Allen's, and KG's numbers all went down considerably. Anybody that can look past scoring realizes that Manu has consistantly been the 3rd/4th (now clearly 3rd with Roy's injuries) best SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade the past 5 yrs. You dont even realize how special of a player we have with Manu, kinda sad tbh.
Also there many better pgs in the league that are better than sgs so more pgs make the all star team than sgs. Manu is a borderline all star that has gotten one gift apperance the first time he got selected when others had better stats, then the long drought of non all star appearances, then this year he gets selected because the spurs are off to such a great regular seaon start and his numbers are slightly better than Parkers.
Possibly, he's been patient with his adjustment to the nba, not ripping into him, despite Splinter making plenty of rookie mistakes. Though, pop would have to make a public announcement for it to become official, lol.
Monta Ellis, Joe Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Tyreke Evans, Brandon "No Meniscus" Roy, Paul "I need a wheelchair because I have a hangnail" Pierce, Andre Iguodala? All these players are as good if not better?
So would you trade Manu for any one of those players, straight-up?
Splitter is still awkward from an offensive standpoint, but it looks like he's getting better..I still think he's gonna have to re-tool his shot, but he sets solid screens and knows where to be on the floor..
Defensively, as I pointed out in my Splitter thread earlier in the season, he has been solid all year..he has been the 2nd best defensive big, next to Tim, and he barely has any chemistry with the team..
As for Rascal, are you guys unaware of who you're arguing with?..I'm far from a Spurs homer, in fact, a lot of the overly optimistic Spurs fans here annoy me..there are a lot of overly pessimistic posters on ST as well, but you can tell that they're still fans of the team..when it comes to Rascal, I don't think I've ever seen him say 1 good thing about the Spurs..he seems to dislike most of the players on the team..I remember he used to hate Bowen, too..
that list is atrocious..only Kobe, Pierce and Wade can be seen as better, you can't make an argument for the rest IMO..Jennings, Evans, Iggy, are those serious picks?!..
Yeah, maybe this is a "you're being punked" thread?
Monta Ellis puts up 25 ppg, on by far the fastest paced team while playing 40+ mpg...not to mention his shot selection.
Joe Johnson? They have a nickname for him I think its like 'one-on-one Joe' or something like that because he's only good at one thing.
Jennings is a PG, he runs the Bucks efficiently but thats about itt their offense is by far the worst in the league.
Iguadala is a SF, nowhere close to being the playmaker Manu is.
Tyreke has a chance to be a superstar, but he's not there yet.
Pierce is a SF as well, but like I said look at how his numbers dipped once Allen and KG came on board....thats the type of teammates Manu has had his entire career, thats the real reason his numbers have never been what theyve been for other guys. Youre holding the fact that Manu has had great teammates against him, which is ridiculous.
Has this thread been hijacked?
That was after he had DeMarcus Cousins give up. The hookshot in his face, the charges drawn and stellar defense had Cousins giving up and benched by the third.
I really hope Pop doesn't put a cork in the confidence Splitter's feeling now by giving him consecutive DNP's or very limited minutes in the near future. This would obviously stunt his potential growth and confident rhythm to a degree.
Pop needs to give him (and the team) a real opportunity to build on his performance from last night. (Especially because of the potential defensive ceiling of this team when Splitter is an important part of the rotation)
The dude is hungry. Pop needs to let the big dog eat.
Muccas, this guy's got a clue.
Im getting worried...this is a Splitter thread. Where is Manu_Forever?
I don't know, but did you hear that Splitter was never the best big man in Europe?Im getting worried...this is a Splitter thread. Where is Manu_Forever?
Oh yeah, I've heard that ad nauseum.
in this right time, probably is cutting his pulses.Im getting worried...this is a Splitter thread. Where is Manu_Forever?
I suspect the true, unspoken reason Manu came off the bench was because the players who were supposed to be coming off the bench came off as quitters and babies who didn't give their best effort unless Pop gave them starts. Hedo, Finley, Barry, Mason, all those guys dogged it when they were coming off the bench. Then they were gifted starts and *BAM* they somehow start producing and feeling good.
Manu should have been starting every game since his rookie year, but there were players who purposely or not would end up sabotaging things.
Wait...Did I hear what? Something about Europe you say?
back on Splitter
I've wanted Splitter to start just about all season so Blair could come off the bench and wreak havoc against tired starters and bench bigs. And to get Splitter adjusted by the playoffs. Splitter is missing all the junkshots he vomited up overseas that I worried about before the season, but aside from that he's been mostly delivering on his defensive potential.
Let us all be thankful for the Bonner injury forcing Pop to go with Splitter a little more than he probably would have. He still was stubborn over it with some garbage time and DNP-CDs for Splitter even without Bonner, but this is for the best.
I considered starting a thread a week before the Bonner injury asking if a non-severe injury to a big would be the best thing for them. Injuries save Pop from himself.
Injuries freed Stephen Jackson, not Pop. Rasho going down freed Nazr, who had zero experience in the system, but that didn't keep him from contributing as the starting center on a le team. If Rasho never went down, how well would things have gone for that team?
Hopefully Splitter will continue to experience some of that freedom, though I'm sure he'd be farther along without so much time in DNP-CD lock-up.
lol all the gnsf's taking rascal seriously.
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