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In general, I really doubt the Fruitloop demographic would choose fresh fruit over a bowl of sugary, flavor- and color-enchanced, nutrient-void, chemically laden industrial, food-like substance wetted with milk-like white liquid.
What are You going to do to reverse that?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...dent#vseek1850
Just one of many questions posed to the President in this circus. This one took the cake. Ironic that neither the man posing the problem nor the President realized that the solution came with the question when he threw away the box of fruit loops and chose to eat the fruit. No government intervention needed.
Thanks Mic e for getting Wal-mart to put those labels on products for us.
In general, I really doubt the Fruitloop demographic would choose fresh fruit over a bowl of sugary, flavor- and color-enchanced, nutrient-void, chemically laden industrial, food-like substance wetted with milk-like white liquid.
how does the man posing the problem make fruit cheaper by throwing away the box of froot loops?What are You going to do to reverse that?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...dent#vseek1850
Just one of many questions posed to the President in this circus. This one took the cake. Ironic that neither the man posing the problem nor the President realized that the solution came with the question when he threw away the box of fruit loops and chose to eat the fruit. No government intervention needed.
Thanks Mic e for getting Wal-mart to put those labels on products for us.
froot loops are actually filled with nutrients.
bull .
that doesn't rot
if it don't rot, don't eat it.
if man made it, don't eat it.
I'm not arguing that it's absolutely good for you. Just saying that it is not void of nutrients.
Read the nutrition label.
froot =/= fruit
No government intervention needed to reverse it? Seems a strange position to take when government intervention through subsidies is the reason Froot Loops, McDonald's, and lots of other junk food packed with corn syrup is so cheap in this nation (when you ignore that initial tax that doesn't show up on your receipt).What are You going to do to reverse that?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...dent#vseek1850
Just one of many questions posed to the President in this circus. This one took the cake. Ironic that neither the man posing the problem nor the President realized that the solution came with the question when he threw away the box of fruit loops and chose to eat the fruit. No government intervention needed.
Thanks Mic e for getting Wal-mart to put those labels on products for us.
Genetically engineer fruit to last much longer. That's about the only solution I see.What are You going to do to reverse that?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...dent#vseek1850
Just one of many questions posed to the President in this circus. This one took the cake. Ironic that neither the man posing the problem nor the President realized that the solution came with the question when he threw away the box of fruit loops and chose to eat the fruit. No government intervention needed.
Thanks Mic e for getting Wal-mart to put those labels on products for us.
Seriously though, it isn't a great thing that the cheaper foods are also more unhealthy. They're empty calories, for the most part.
I'm sure government farm subsidies help fruit producers as well. There was a time when buying fruit at the grocery store was cheaper than buying processed foods but over the years that changed and I don't think it was government subsidies that changed things nor do I think it was in the hands of the grocery store to change things as the President suggest (if Walmart would just stop buying those dang fruit loops). Choices made by the consumer caused the shift and could cause it to shift back, but why would we do that? Why go back to buying carrots and turnips when you can get a whole serving of vegetables in a glass of V-8? Its called progress. Is it really a bad thing that fresh produce cost more than the box Fruit Loops?
Nope. IMO
Probably. It's most likely a factor in the nation's growing obesity (along with income inequality, video games, and a number of other reasons).
Choices are made by the consumer for all the junk food because it's cheap thanks to our massive subsidy of corn and soybeans. It's not progress seeing our nation turn into a bunch of fat s because our oligarchy sold its citizens health down the river. Your progress is one of the chief reasons health care is so ridiculously expensive here.
Yep. If you really want to make healthcare more affordable in this country start taxing junk food the same way we tax cigarettes. You can even distribute the tax proceeds to all taxpayers via personal HSA accounts which they can then use for their medical expenses.
Determining what is and what isn't junk food can be real tricky.
Yep. If you really want to make healthcare more affordable in this country start taxing junk food the same way we tax cigarettes.
I don't see it happening.
"Genetically engineer fruit to last much longer"
no more Frankenfood. US food supply, every bit of it, is already tainted with GM stuff.
The reason BigFood sells dead food is that that it doesn't rot, has a long shelf life, and it's mostly dry, so lighter to ship.
Fresh fruit/veg is mostly water so it's more expensive to ship, needs shorter shipping times, and is perishable.
Just another case of BigFood corps doing what is best for their profits, while not giving a FF about consumer health.
And American sheeple are more like cows, they'll eat any damn BigFood puts on the shelves.
People who eat badly should be taxed more for it. This is where you thinking dovetails with WC, btw.
Yep. If you really want to make healthcare more affordable in this country start taxing junk food the same way we tax cigarettes. You can even distribute the tax proceeds to all taxpayers via personal HSA accounts which they can then use for their medical expenses.
Big Win for Biotech: USDA Deregulates Monsanto Alfalfa
After nearly five years of legal and regulatory battles, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) has fully deregulated Monsanto's Roundup Ready alfalfa that is genetically modified (GM) to be resistant to Roundup herbicide.
The decision squashed a proposed compromise between the biotech industry and its opponents that would have placed geographic restrictions on Roundup Ready alfalfa to prevent organic and traditional alfalfa from being contaminated by herbicide sprays and transgenes spread by cross-pollination and other factors.
Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced that Roundup Ready alfalfa would be fully deregulated on January 27, just one week after he testified before the House Committee on Agriculture, where committee members pressed Vilsack to fully deregulate Roundup Ready alfalfa and reject the proposal to geographically isolate it from traditional alfalfa.
http://www.truth-out.org/print/67373
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America is so ed, and un able.
Certainly there would be disagreements over the specifics of what exactly qualifies as junk food and what doesn't. But IMO that doesn't invalidate the concept.
I don't either. Americans would riot if their extra value meal got more expensive.I don't see it happening.
I'm just saying, if you want fruit to compete with things like a cereal, you're going to have to find a way to make them last much longer. The relatively short life of fruit/veggies is going to keep costs higher than items which have much longer shelf-lives.
The other reasons you mentioned as well. IOW, I have no idea on how to make fruit cost less/equal.
It's a tough question to me. I hate seeing McDonald's able to advertise to kids and get them hooked on a lifetime of toxic junk food like fries and cokes by bribing them with toys and bombarding them with friendly cartoon characters and the like. I guess I agree with San Francisco's decision to kill the toys in Happy Meals, since a child can't realistically be expected to make decisions for his own good. Otherwise, why not let kids drink, why not let them smoke, why not let them drive, why not let them have sex with adults, and so on?
Yep. If you really want to make healthcare more affordable in this country start taxing junk food the same way we tax cigarettes. You can even distribute the tax proceeds to all taxpayers via personal HSA accounts which they can then use for their medical expenses.
On the other hand, I hate the idea of a sin tax. That just opens the floodgates to people who want to screw me over if I want to buy a 6-pack of beer or an occasional bag of weed. I'd be happy if we just ended the subsidization and didn't give such a compe ive advantage to processed junk food in our stores. If you don't have good money it's pretty easy to go to Wendy's or Taco Bell to feed your kids than to pay for non-subsidized produce and meats. We shouldn't be actively pushing people towards this garbage.
One would think bad health and an early death were bad enough.
Apparently, much akin to the notion of soaking the rich, those who are so unfortunate as to have suffered ill health according to their own choices, deserve to pay even more for the privilege.
lol gateway toys
Can you expand on this?
Fruit and vegetables are cheap. People are just lazy. Plain and simple. My kid eats fruit and vegetables. We don't buy sugar cereal, soda pop, processed foods and he doesn't want any of it. If that means I have to make a few mini trips to the market in addition to the big grocery trip for fresh fruit, then I'll do it. If you don't care about your own health, that's on you, but people who can't help their kids make good, healthy choices make me sick.
Never mind that not all "junk" effects everyone the same, or that nutrition of whatever given quality is organically needful in a very basic sense.
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