Odom gave our old front line fits in '08 (primarily with offensive rebounding - an issue that Blair & McDyess should help extensively with compared to that team). Since then, Bynum is a much bigger factor.
Even during our win last week - did you not notice how our guards avoided the lane like the plague when Gasol & Bynum were in together? When Odom replaced Bynum, it became open season for our guys to attack to rim.
Odom does a lot of things well, but he's not a rim presence who is going to scare anybody away from attacking.
I don't see why either side would want to do that. For Denver, why lock in a 31 years old coming off a huge injury prior to CBA renegotiation? For Butler, knowing that Denver won't office the max, why not wait for FA to see your options (i.e. returning to Dallas)?
I think it's laughable. Pau already es about the offense not flowing. Add another ball-dominant guy with an already established ball-dominant guy and you get 3 other guys wondering when they're going to get touches.
This Spurs defense isnt of 2004-2008 quality.
Bynum gives us issues defensively but crunch time odom is the guy that sees minutes and has been playing a lot better this year. he's still a mismatch offensively and i actually think hes a superior rebounder to bynum, esp. on offensive rebounds
Spurs have had a lot of success defending this current laker squad recently but adding Melo would make them a lot more difficult to defend. You could say that Pau would get less touches but replacing Bynum with Melo straight up is pretty clear-cut upgrade.
on paper absolutely. in practice - combining 2 volume shooters who are both used to be the CLEAR #1 option offensively is much more tricky.
in addition, melo's game (face up and attack the rim & offensive rebounds with abandon) is essentially what odom excels most at.
while melo is a clear upgrade over bynum in terms of a 1-on-1 player, his inclusion could hurt the games of Kobe (fighting for shots), Odom (occupy similar roles in the offense), and Gasol (fewer touches).
basketball isn't played in a vacuum.
LOL @ Hoopsworld
1) implying that Caracter is somebody that the Nugs would care about in a Melo deal
2) trying to package a trade exemption
3) that nobody else is willing to even make an offer for melo between now and the deadline.
If he's going anywhere, he's going to the Knicks. That's a ing lock.
I remember when the the Lakers got Shaq.Back then Spur fans said Shaq wasn't going to help them because he never won a ring. Even when they got Gasol many said Gasol wasn't that good and soft. No matter who the Lakers get most Spur fans will downplay it with stuff like not enough balls and shots to go around.
Then they are surprised when the lakers beat them.
If the lakers land Carmelo its a great move but they will need another frontcourt player which I am sure they will pull off in another move.
The Lakers have a great organization that is agressive and makes big trades to land big named star players.
Still waiting for the NBA to trade Paul to LA under the guise of :
"salary relief"
San Antonio McDyess on Line 2 for you.
Yeah. If the Lakers get Melo and the Spurs don't win it all, I'm done with NBA basketball. It's getting re ed. They might as well get rid of the salary cap and turn this into world club soccer. Lakers can then buy everyone they want since they got all the money.
Question what happened the last time a Ball-Dominant player like say, Carmelo Anthony teamed up with another established Ball-Dominant player like say, Allen Iverson? It happened...how did that go?
1 Ball on the court at all times... REALITY!
Dumb comparison. This is exactly what I am talking about.
Spur fans are some of the worst homers.
This is exactly the type of trade the Lakers will pull off.
Bull . If the Lakers were still in Minnesota, none of this happens. Location, location, location.
Those who did criticize the Shaq move* were initially right. It wasn't until Kobe emerged that the Lakers became a threat. In this situation, the Lakers only have one current player who is capable of emerging...and he is the guy they'd have to trade for Melo.
That said, my doubt for Melo working for them (beyond their inability to pull off the trade) is restricted solely to THIS season. Longer term, I think they could make it work.
* Which I'm not even sure those people existed. Spurstalk didn't exist then and for most Spurs fans, Houston/Utah were the primary targets when Shaq went west.
If Lakers want Melo, they will get Melo. This is Stern's NBA.
Lakers will not just get Melo. They prolly will be able to do something like
Blake, Bynum, Walton + picks for Melo, Ty Lawson + one of the bigs so that Laker will have a more rounded roster. Screw Denver. Stern does not care about them.
Melo is going to the Knicks.
melo kobe and paul and pau could exist
however they would need to talk about it before
wade,james and bosh thought about it for a year before it happened
and bosh really wanted to be 3 fiddler
Kobe acts like a when another demanding personality enters the equation. Between his and Melo's butting heads would be Pau, caught in the middle as a submissive type. I doubt LA would ever have the chemistry they had during their end of the decade run.
Additionally, Odom's rebounding, length, and diverse skillset are a big part of what makes LA so formidable. Anthony's scoring would be offset by his lack of other skills, his lack of knowledge of the system and his teammates, and his inevitable clashes with the aging Kobe.
Oh Boy.. It would be a great trade for the Spurs if Melo is traded to LA and Bynum is out. And Pop would agree this time saying, "any trade committee would agree". With Anthony in the team there would be two volume shooters wanting to eff the triangle. Bet Phil Jackson will feel like he is 90 by the time the season is done while his Sancho Panza, Charley Rosen will burn Fox Sports and NBA fanhouse with one caustic column after another.
And LA will be back to more Hollywood drama a la 2004 with Malone and Payton around.
Something tells me Mitch Kupchak is not that much a dud to do this.
Last edited by Spursfanfromafar; 02-08-2011 at 11:30 PM.
after reading most of whats out of the story this is denver trying to get NY scared.
do the trade
we have the wings to play with them but not the bigs if they keep the big lineup, trade away one of the bigs then we have this
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