that was when david robinson played decades ago
Doesn't matter what they had around them, he had two first ballot hall of famers in their prime. You could argue that Phil Jackson had the same kind of team; 2 sure fire hall of famers surrounded by a bunch of stiffs. Sure Horry hit a couple of big shots but hardly anything else he did on the court is worth mentioning.
Compare the numbers of Hornacek, Russell, Ostertag to Horry, Fisher, and Fox and you'll see they're very similar slightly favoring Utah
Stockton wasn't a superstar player, tbh, at least IMO..he's probably the most overrated player in NBA history..assist stat-padder that didn't produce in big games..
Sloan is overrated, but if you gave him Phil Jackson's rosters, he probably still wins some les IMO, although probably not all of them..
Yeah but could Sloan deal with controversy like Phil Jackson could?
Stuff like the Shaq-Kobe feud, would Sloan's no-nonsense style work for the Lakers or would it cause them to both pout and end up turning into a trainwreck?
That's where Phil is underrated, IMO. Controlling personality problems before they flared up. Pippen refusing to go in, Rodman, Shaq-Kobe, Artest, etc.
He was getting tears. Seems like it was a hard choice for him. since 1988 ...wow
End of an era...
He's always been a "my way or the highway" kind of guy with his players. Door's just swinging both ways on that. Management wouldn't let him coach his way so he's gone.
Sloan may never have been a championship caliber coach but that's an exceedingly rare sort. I'd put him at the head of the class of coaches like Nellie or Rick Adelman. Guys who could take a team full of question marks and find a way to spin straw into a playoff team. Not a glamorous as a coach with some rings but still a skill worth celebrating.
Just out of curiousity, what was his record in playoffs series without HCA? For as long as I can remember the Jazz were always one of the toughest teams to face on their own floor.
ing Deron Williams pulling a Magic Johnson
him
CP3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Williams
right, cause CP3 didn't get Byron Scott fired
Deron Williams knew he'd never win a championship with a racist coach who hates black players. Smart move for his career to get Sloan fired.
I really think Jerry really wanted to retire already and he took this tiff with Deron as an easy out.
Byron Scott sucks
Jason Kidd is the one who led the Nets to the Finals, not Scott.
And Scott ran the Princeton's offense, which he has nothing to do with.
And following that 2008 fluke season, the Hornets had every reason to fire Scott
(I can't blame Scott for what's happening in Cleveland though)
Jerry Sloan's 2 finals appearances are no less fluky than Scott's. The 1997 and 1998 Western Conferences were two weak conferences in a transitional phase. The teams that ruled the conference during the early-mid 90's (Suns, Sonics, Rockets) were all declining for one reason or another, while the teams that would rule the West in the 2000's (Lakers, Spurs) had yet to reach full strength. Look at that Jazz team in today's West. A slightly above average defensive team with an offense that would get neutered by any team that defends the pick and roll well. I'd be surprised if it made the conference finals or beat the Spurs, Mavs or Lakers in a 7 game series.Byron Scott sucks
Jason Kidd is the one who led the Nets to the Finals, not Scott.
And Scott ran the Princeton's offense, which he has nothing to do with.
And following that 2008 fluke season, the Hornets had every reason to fire Scott
(I can't blame Scott for what's happening in Cleveland though
Last edited by Kyle Orton; 02-11-2011 at 11:03 AM.
Great point
But they still gave fits to the Chicago Bulls in both Finals
I would be surprised tooLook at that Jazz team in today's West. A slightly above average defensive team with an offense that would get neutered by any team that defends the pick and roll well. I'd be surprised if it made the conference finals or beat the Spurs, Mavs or Lakers in a 7 game series.
Jordan's Bulls weren't exactly athletic freaks during that time, and he himself was already at the tail-end of his athletic peak so it boiled down into a methodical, dragging game which the Bulls were experts at during that time.Great point
But they still gave fits to the Chicago Bulls in both Finals
Chris Paul got Byron Scott fired? I thought that he was upset and was still loyal to Scott.
News to me.
True, the Bulls had to use all their previous championship experience and craftiness in order to beat the Jazz.
The thing that puzzled me was the fact that Sloan was so stubborn in regards to putting Russel on MJ.
I remember during the Finals, they showed the number of points that Jordan scored on Hornacek vs those he scored on Russell; Horny did a better job defensively on MJ, whereas Russell got torched; I don't know why Sloan stuck with Bryon; yeah he is black, but he wasnt that athletic and his D was average
With the perceived blame for Sloan resigning,
I wonder what Deron Williams reception from the Jazz fans will be like when they play tonight. Is he going to be mercilessly booed and ask for a trade the next day?
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/02/1...or.knicks.2012
Just as the Jazz was starting to worry about Williams, who is said to be looking at Dallas, the Clippers or Knicks in 2012. Williams had reached the point with Sloan in the past several weeks where he asked to be traded, according to sources. The Jazz wouldn't accommodate him, but did get a laundry list of complaints from its top player, who had grown tired of Sloan's rigid approach to coaching, dependence on veteran players and what Williams considered to be his outdated demands.
As soon as Sloan stepped down and stories of his rocky relationship with Williams started to circulate, Williams took the hit because he hasn't yet compiled a resume to warrant such power, and Sloan had become as much of an ins ution in Utah as Karl Malone and John Stockton.
I can't lead my team to a le; trade me; and Sloan is so mean
ignorant moron with the comment "Chris Paul got Scott fired" ... are you really that stupid? don't you remember the big fiasco and Paul ing about it? DAVID WEST was happy about Scott being fired, but not Chris Paul. he was pissed.
This.I can't lead my team to a le; trade me; and Sloan is so mean
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