Jerry Sloan to resign

[spurs10]

GSH, thanks for the information. I've never known much about Sloan's personal life and one's professional life and personal are not often mutually exclusive in sports.

[Dex]

Not to derail the thread, but here's more info on those quotes by Pop. A link to the interview is also here:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...ng-for-awhile/

[Mugen]

pretty ironic that the bulls closed him out.

[Dex]

pretty ironic that the bulls closed him out.

ouch.

[carina_gino20]

Before Manu signed his extension with the Spurs, he made sure Pop would be sticking around even after Tim's contract ends.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...80%99-working/

“It was a long conversation,” Ginobili said. “But I wanted to know if he was planning on coaching just another year, or the length of my contract. I wanted to know.”

Popovich had always kidded he’d retire when Tim Duncan did, and Wednesday restated why he’d always said that. Duncan’s seven blocks were necessary, especially since Milwaukee’s Andrew Bogut had seven.

Popovich has also said in the past that he could see staying as the franchise transitions out of this era. For all of his outside interests, the game has a pull on him. His own contract likely does, too.

But Popovich never talked about how long, exactly, until Ginobili wanted to know. Asked about that Wednesday, Popovich responded as Ginobili did. With humor.

“Manu asked me a few questions before he signed,” he said. “I gave him whatever baloney I had to give him to get him to sign, and now I guess I’ve got to follow through somehow or another.”

[ducks]

bets when sloan picks up a dui

one week?

[PM5K]

he yelled and bullied and belittled his players and assistants.

I guess that's why his assistant went out with him after 23 years, because he was such a bad guy. He was also so unbearable that Stockton and Malone spent virtually their entire careers playing for him. He was such a horrible drunk that he was the longest tenured coach in all of pro sports.

What an asshole.....




















Deron Williams is.

[PM5K]

Williams is en led to his opinion, but he should remember this: Over his quarter century of assistant and head coaching, Sloan has never (as far as I know) hung a player out to dry.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1DcxNxyw4

[TampaDude]

Of course, now that Sloan has resigned, Pop is the longest tenured NBA coach with one team.

[Brutalis]

I thought he was going to step down after the season was over? He went ahead and left early??

[toki9]

Watched a bit of the Sloan press conference and I cringed when Miller began to explain how no one in the franchise--not player, management, him--had pushed Sloan out...my thoughts were: 1. That's a wildly inappropriate comment then the guy resigning is sitting right next to you; 2. Why address it so openly and publicly if there was really nothing to it? People will write whatever they'll write. Disavowing it publicly won't help your credibility. But it does make you look like you have guilty conscience.

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
NBA should honor Jerry Sloan by asking him to coach West AllStars. Spurs Gregg Popovich probably wouldnt mind. Sloan probably humbly decline

[JonNOKC]

Here - this is a good start. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...oan/index.html

Nobody is all bad or all good. Sloan can be a personable guy, and some people have thicker skin than others. He was a of a good coach, and I have utmost respect for that. But I just don't agree with trying to make him into something he wasn't.

And for the people who say that he was a class act? The old Jazz owner was a class act, right up until the day he died. (I still remember him letting the Spurs use his private jet to fly Timmy home after getting injured in Utah that time.) Sloan could be a class act at times. But he could also be a top-notch bas .

All I'm saying is that motivating people is part of being a great coach. Like it or not, that has been a big part of Phil Jackson's success. And... in my opinion anyway, that is where Sloan came up short over the years. He alienated the out of too many players. (And assistants, and scouts, and ball boys.) And, again in my opinion, his teams' morale has gone to for weeks at a time over the years - and that always seemed to coincide with him being the biggest asshole.

I'm sure I'll catch the usual from some people who want to believe that he was a saint, or a coaching god. Whatever.

No one is making Sloan out to be a saint or god - just not sure why it so hard for some people to admit he was a great coach - as already been pointed out his best teams lost to MJ in the finals and he only had one losing season in 26 years. When you factor in injuries, free agency, the fact of being able to get players who have only known one coach for so many years to continue to respond and be motivated by you, and hearing what his peers have to say should tell you what you need to know about Sloan.

I don't understand why people can't just acknowledge someone's professional accomplishments without tearing them down because of their faults. Many players and coaches have had problems off the court. Wilt and Magic spent many late nights partying and sex (Wilt talks about 5 girls in one night/morning). MJ was as big a bas , jerk, and gambler outside the court as anyone. Babe Ruth, Eddie Sutton, Pete Rose - the list goes on and on.

We don't know how much personal issues effects the professional side of someones career, and it is mere speculation to try and do so. Does anyone actually believe the if Sloan was not drinking (I don't know that he was or wasn't) in the finals his Jazz would of won?

Bottom line is he is known as one of the hardest workers in BB and was known to put in crazy hours working to be the best he could be. GSH & Ducks may know more BB than Pop or myself, but I think it is extremely difficult to not classify Sloan as a great coach. I do not like the Jazz, and I am not saying Sloan didn't have issues in his life, but on this day as he walks away from the game he lived to play/coach I prefer to give respect to his accomplishments.

[ploto]

He was talking about Sloan's drinking and hanging out in bars till all hours during the season.

You have any idea how many NBA players you just described- some who were superstars.

[balli]

He was talking about Sloan's drinking and hanging out in bars till all hours during the season.

Agree, with ploto, as if that is all that atypical. Or in any way cons utes the whole of his moral worth.

And then McCallum, as you conveniently ignore like an asshole, goes on to talk about Sloan's subsequent rise to sobriety when alcohol was becoming a problem.

And tbh, Sloan's not completely sober anymore. Sometimes he's goes and has a Bud Light and a cig or three at Lumpy's on Highland in SLC. So what?

[JR3]

How about I say it more plainly? He was a damned old drunk. He laid out in the bars half the night, even during the season. And when he was on a bad streak, which at times was fairly frequently, he yelled and bullied and belittled his players and assistants. The Jazz teams are known for going into slumps. Lots of them have been directly caused by Sloan and the way he treats people.

The first time the Jazz lost to the Bulls in the Finals? Sloan was out drinking after the losses. And you can argue that it never affected his coaching, but that's bull . Other coaches are watching film and getting some sleep. Not Sloan.

I feel kind of sorry for him at times. But Michael Jordan wasn't the only thing that kept him from winning a le.

Um... I live in salt lake and the bars close well before the jazz games are over. So unless he goes down to vegas all the time, I question this.

[balli]

Um... I live in salt lake and the bars close well before the jazz games are over. So unless he goes down to vegas all the time, I question this.

Ummmmm... not to question you, because you're defending Sloan. But I live in Salt Lake and the bars all close at 2 AM, last call being at 1. And make their living off of Jazz game crowds. So unless they changed the local start time of Jazz games to about 10:30, that's fairly inaccurate.

[JR3]

Ummmmm... not to question you, because you're defending Sloan. But I live in Salt Lake and the bars all close at 2 AM, last call being at 1. So unless they changed the local start time of Jazz games to about 10:30, that's fairly inaccurate.

Fair enough. You're right. Its hard to imagine Sloan at some of the low end bars I know are open that late. But if sloan does have a drinking problem, I'm sure he would make a way. I still doubt it though. Just me. Kinda beside the point though.

[balli]

Fair enough. You're right. Its hard to imagine Sloan at some of the low end bars I know are open that late. But if sloan does have a drinking problem, I'm sure he would make a way. I still doubt it though. Just me. Kinda beside the point though.

It is besides the point, but I just don't know what you're talking about. Every bar in the valley, including the cream of the crop like Bambara's bar and the Skybar stay open until at least the legally designated last call at 1 AM. All of them.

And yeah like I mentioned above, Sloan can sometimes, still rarely, be found in the uptown Lumpy's, a semi-dive, on off days, usually in the last afternoon/early evening.

[senorglory]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
NBA should honor Jerry Sloan by asking him to coach West AllStars. Spurs Gregg Popovich probably wouldnt mind. Sloan probably humbly decline

even better, give Sloan Coach of the Year.

[senorglory]

But Michael Jordan wasn't the only thing that kept him from winning a le.

[bishopospurs]

Jerry Sloan is from Gobbler's Knob, Ill... priceless!! I liked Sloan, hated his Jazz teams with Malone and Stockton because they were so tough in the playoffs, but I respect him for making those teams so tough.

[JR3]

It is besides the point, but I just don't know what you're talking about. Every bar in the valley, including the cream of the crop like Bambara's bar and the Skybar stay open until at least the legally designated last call at 1 AM. All of them.

And yeah like I mentioned above, Sloan can sometimes, still rarely, be found in the uptown Lumpy's, a semi-dive, on off days, usually in the last afternoon/early evening.

Sounds like I should do a little research before making my comments. I moved here from NYC just a year ago, so I'm not as up to speed on Utah Bar hours as you are. But I do know that "open late" has a very different meaning in New York.

[Whisky Dog]

Lots of hate on Deron without knowing the specifics of the situation.

iMO, based on limited outside knowledge, Larry Miller passed away and his kid wants to run the team on the cheap. They peak in '07 when they lost in the WCF to the Spurs, then the selling off of pieces like Brewer takes place. Boozer walks. Deron and Sloan are both pissed at this direction of cheap operation and the losing this season starts to boil over. comes to a head between Deron and Sloan, as it does between coach and star player quite often in sports, and Sloan isn't backed up by mgt. so he decides to bail.

I don't blame him for leaving if mgt. isn't going to have his back, but just quitting mid season on his players isn't any different than a player who got replaced in the lineup and not having the support of his coach or GM quitting on the team mid season. At least see the season out and then walk away in May instead of quitting on the team. If a player gets called out for quitting when he's not being played and supported then Sloan should as well.

[balli]

I moved here from NYC just a year ago, so I'm not as up to speed on Utah Bar hours as you are. But I do know that "open late" has a very different meaning in New York.

That matter of perspective, we can definitely agree on. Sorry about the move, hope it hasn't been too much of a culture shock.