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NO.
D Williams....never won a le...never will...
there is something to be said for being a champion...TP knows what it takes--Williams never will...
You are pretty in' stupid and should kill yourself ....right now.
Whats the point of a trade in a position that is covered for years in the future?
NO.
D Williams....never won a le...never will...
there is something to be said for being a champion...TP knows what it takes--Williams never will...
You are pretty in' stupid and should kill yourself ....right now.
No
During the off season before this year I would have said yes in a heartbeat. Now that it looks like Williams has turned into an prima donna with a disresoectful at ude toward the coach that goes as far as not running called plays no and no pop won't fire pop, pop won't play a guy with that at ude, manu and hill can't play that much point guard, and quinn isn't good enough.
Maybe I shouldn't post it here... TP is one of the most underrated guy in the league, but right now I think he is not better than Deron Williams. You can say that Deron may mess up the chemistry, but you can't imply he won't get a championship. You have no clues. Don't forget Deron doesn't just bring stats, he bring WINs. In recent years the jazz never miss the playoffs. Even this year without Boozer, they're still top 8 in the west.
That's impressive nostradamus !
Oh and can you tell me who will be the 2018 MVP?
No. Tony keeps everything copacetic.
Just another in a long line of stupid rumors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where did this come from anyway?????????????
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It's not a matter of talent. Of course DWill is talented. It's a matter of fit. If he won't run the coach's called plays, he has no place here. It's really just that simple. He can't be a Spur.
Deron is a franchise player.
If you EVER get the chance to acquire a franchise player, you take it. Very few exceptions.
Parker is an amazing player, but Deron is a top 5 MVP candidate this year. He's carried the Jazz single-handedly so far this season.
it goes both ways..
i wouldn't pull the trigger on the trade this season because of the way things are going.. i don't want to disrupt team chemistry
also wouldn't want to have a dallas-native play for a dallas rival lol..
but if we were doing worse and we had the opportunity to swap players.. i'd do it as long as deron doesn't bring all that drama / garbage.. the whole rift with sloan isn't his character i don't think.. he's a humble guy overall..
enough with the trade TP . just goes to show how underrated and unappreciated he is in this town.
In the offseason, yes. At the midway point in the season when the Spurs are making a historic run? no.
This has been a relatively poor season for Dwill as well, even beyond just the Sloan drama. All the other big name PG's seem to have lit him up this season and he's made a lot of bad decisions on the offensive end as well. I also don't see Dwill taking on less money like Parker either.
Of course I would.
I love Parker, but I could send him for Paul or Deron. That's the 2 guys which I would accept.
Yep, exactly my thoughts.
Williams is a better individual player, but not to the degree that people make it out to be. He's not a franchise player now any more than he was when Boozer was in Utah. He's skilled but he doesn't have the leadership ability to be a franchise player. He's a less-skilled franchise version of Carmelo and Joe Johnson. Franchise players are built around (Duncan, Dirk, Kobe) and alone can keep their team compe ive. Guys like Deron are just good pieces you use to build a team.
Stick Tony on the Jazz and tell him to go out and be the offense and he'll put up 25 a game with 7-8 apg. Being the best player on your team doesn't make you a franchise player.
of course. anyone that said no is a re ed homer
Wow. I have no words for this take, especially the bolded part.
This is not as cut and dry as it might seem. Parker's stats suffer from being in the Spurs' system. Even so, let's compare:
.................Min..........FG%........3pt%..... .Reb......Asst.....St....TO...Pts
Parker.......32.7.........52.7.........35.7....... .3.0.......6.7......1.3...2.5...17.3
Williams.....37.8.........46.3.........34.8....... .3.8.......9.6......1.2...3.4....21.6
The scoring difference is due to 4 factors. 1. Williams has taken about 50 shots more than Parker and 2. He has taken 250 3pt shots vs. Parker's 42. 3. Williams gets to the line with more frequency shooting 139 more free throws than Parker. This indicates that he has actually taken about 110 more shots than Parker. 4. He plays 5 minutes a game more than Parker.
So this begs the question: Who would you take shots away from in the Spurs system. The Spurs are the #2 3pt shooting team in the league shooting at a 39.5% clip. The Jazz are 22nd shooting 34.3%. Do you want Williams taking 3pt shots away from Bonner, RJ, Neal, or Manu? All of whom shoot a higher % than Williams. In addition, in end of game or end of quarter situations do you take the ball out Manu's hands?
I think it is clear that on the Spurs Williams does not have the ball in his hands as much as he does on the Jazz. This will have an effect of lowering his stats. In addition, if you adjust the stats for time played they look even closer now:
...............Points.........Asst.........Reb.... ....Steals
Parker.......19.05..........7.4..........3.3...... ...1.4
Williams.....20.57..........9.1..........3.6...... ...1.1
If you adjust for having the ball in Manu's hands much more often than any other Jazz player currently does and the risk of upsetting chemisty seems like an unreasonable risk.
lol Joe Johnson was a bit of a stretch
Wow. I have no words for this take, especially the bolded part.
Spurbird, it's precisely because we are talking about a team that I wouldn't sacrifice any of our key players for someone who hasn't found success as a team player. Sorry to use the word "insane", I was kidding with you, but I feel Tony Parker is horribly taken for granted. He is the MVP of our 2007 championship. It doesn't get any more important than that.
He's not a franchise player, unless you considered Garnett one in Minny. I never did. A franchise player is one that if you surround them with some talent, they can make a deep playoff run, and if you surround them with really good talent, they can ring. There are never really more than 3-4 in the NBA at any time.
No, I would not. Williams is a great player and maybe even better than TP, but his actions prove that when the going gets tough he will be a problem.
He will never be the leader that can get the ring. He will have to do a Lebron and ride the coat tails of someone who is a leader to get that ring.
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