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No, I will still like to have Pop as a coach until he wants to retire.
spurfan is spoiled rotten.
No, I will still like to have Pop as a coach until he wants to retire.
Yeah problem is, he single-handedly ran Jerry Sloan out of Utah also. No thanks. I'll stick with Pop, TD, Manu, & TP as our core....
I'd do it. Sure, I'd miss TP, but I think Deron could mesh with Manu and TD pretty fast.
. Now that Jazz is in rebuilding mode and is willing to trade their all star
Not sticking with the core at this stage would be....well...pretty nuts. We are very fortunate. I'm guessing Tim wouldn't want to see Tony traded for Williams at this point in this very successful season. Tim is our franchise player. If Deron is Utah's franchise player, then I say good luck with that.
I love Deron, but I don't think he'll be able to produce as well as Tony without being the n°1 option...
People (spurs fans include) don't talk enough about the fact that Tony doesn't have the most "comfortable" situation among elite PG, except in 2008, he has never had stats reflecting he true "level" because he shares his playmaking duties and Pop never let his stars "pump up" their stats the way all the other allstars do (this goes for Manu and Timmy too!).
Add the fact that Deron (as all the other "eltie" PGs) would NEVER take less money for the better of the team the way TP did and my answer is definitely ... NO!
Yeah... so funny. They won't dare trade Deron, he's just going to walk out the front door in 2012.
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/02/1...or.knicks.2012
Just as the Jazz was starting to worry about Williams, who is said to be looking at Dallas, the Clippers or Knicks in 2012. Williams had reached the point with Sloan in the past several weeks where he asked to be traded, according to sources. The Jazz wouldn't accommodate him, but did get a laundry list of complaints from its top player, who had grown tired of Sloan's rigid approach to coaching, dependence on veteran players and what Williams considered to be his outdated demands.
As soon as Sloan stepped down and stories of his rocky relationship with Williams started to circulate, Williams took the hit because he hasn't yet compiled a resume to warrant such power, and Sloan had become as much of an ins ution in Utah as Karl Malone and John Stockton.
Yeah.
TP is a great scoring guard. And that's it pretty much. DWill is that and has the offensive awareness and passing ability of Ginobili (or close to it). Can you imagine a Deron/Ginobili backcourt? The passing would be so good it's crazy to think about.
Know how Dejuan, Splitter, RJ, Dice all benefit tremendously by having Ginobili on the court because he sets them up nicely and runs the pick 'n roll to perfection, but TP can't do that nearly as well? With Deron on the court he'd be making those guys better in the same way that Ginobili does, which means we'd have a playmaker on the court at all times, and two when they are both in the game.
i do this trade just to see the backlash of some parkerfans on this site
If a team on a historic regular-season run ever traded away one of their top players, the entire front office and coaching staff should immediately be shot. Doesn't matter how good Deron Williams is, there's no ing way he could improve this year's Spurs team.
No true Spurs fan would even consider trading a franchise great mid-season when the team is having one of the best regular seasons ever. Tony Parker is a NBA Finals MVP. He has faced Deron Williams in the playoffs one on one in the past and it was a draw. To act like Williams is so obviously better a player is not supported by the stats or by the outcomes when they have played each other. Parker is an underrated player and history will remember him for the player he is after it is all over. He started playing at a really young age and was the starting PG on a championship team in his second season. He is still young and has already done as much as some HOF'rs.
No! Why would we want a troublemaker like that who got his coach to leave!
No way... TP is part of the heart and soul of this team.
TP is a system guy, someone who knows what is required off him in the Spurs system. I used to be one of those guys who wasn't fully convinced about TP in the past, but the more I watch him play, I think he is majorly under-rated. He is a very unique guard who scores in the paint using speed, dribbling skills, fakes and finishing skills. And he tailors his game exactly as his coach wants him. Not many PGs in the game now, who play so much within the system. The only knock on TP is his erratic 3Pt shooting and sometimes faltering defense against some PGs, but overall, he is a Top 5-6 PG in the league.
Deron Williams is indeed a franchise player, no doubt. A superb PG. It makes no sense however to drop TP despite this, because getting a new guard to learn the system is a pain and takes a lot of time. I would have done this if the Spurs were struggling. But the Spurs have the best record in the league. They still have a certain steps to go to become sureshot championship winners, but that is despite stellar guard play - the best in the league overall. They lack a solid SF defender, even as RJ does a very adequate job and an assured athletic shot blocker, even as Duncan is good at his age and experienced. Deron Williams is neither. So..no.
What this guy said...
Like that guy who threw a towel in his coach's face that one time? What was his name?No! Why would we want a troublemaker like that who got his coach to leave!
Last edited by VBM; 02-14-2011 at 12:12 AM.
umm yeah.
Can't stand Deron Williams. Hugely overrated.
No way. Deron Williams is a ing loser. He blames everybody but himself.
The only PGs I'd trade Tony for would be Rose and Rondo. I'll take Tony over anybody in the West, including CP3.
When?
This year? No way
In the post season? Probably not.
A couple of PG are better than Parker. But as the Spurs are built, TP is just the PG they need. I don't think any PG in the league would be a clear upgrade.
Moreover Parker makes significantly less money than D-Will.
I would keep Parker and (try to) spend my money on a big.
Less money? Yes.
Significantly? LOL
TP 13.65 mil
Deron 14.84 mil
So you would spend your money on a big? Who? With 14.84-13.64=about 1 mil?
D-Will next two years
$16,359,805
$17,779,457
Parker will make 12.5 I think
Edit:
But your question is legit, I am not sure any good big could be found.
This is why I said I would "probably" not trade for D-Will.
Deron is a piece of player! He is worthless cause hes not a team player! Tony Parker has everything you want in a point guard! And he listens to his coach! D-Will can go kill himself for all I care.
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