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    Even though I created this thread, I wasn't that impressed with Rose last night. The Bulls won, but the difference was the interior play of the frontcourt and the FT shooting. nets choked this game away at the FT line. Plus, the Bulls bench dominated the nets bench.

    Rose is similar to Westbrook but better. Both are big athletic guards who aren't great shooters, but get to the line alot and finish around the basket. However, both aren't great at running the offense or ball-handling since they're turnover prone.

    I disagree with D-Will being the 2nd best PG. His team is collapsing around him and he's not doing much about it. CP3 has his team playing better with similar talent.

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    Stop fooling yourself Hornets78!

    Rose > CP3

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    I disagree that Westbrook is a good finisher as well.

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    Stop fooling yourself Hornets78!

    Rose > CP3


    I'm not arguing that CP3 is better. I expected more from Rose last night, but his impact didn't occur till late after the Bulls had already taken the lead. CP3 didn't do much either. Thornton was the one who gave the nets a big lead in the first place.

    Rose is still the best PG this season, but he has a lot to work on.

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    I disagree that Westbrook is a good finisher as well.
    True. He just gets a lot of help from refs.

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    Has nothing to do with the refs. Tony Parker is a great finisher. He gets in the lane and converts lay ups at a ridiculous rate. Sure, Westbrook is super athletic, but there is a reason he shoots such a terrible FG% and it's not just missed jump shots.

    He drives quite a bit, but really struggles to finish. He misses dunks and a vast array of layups. He hasn't learned to control his body at top speeds like a Parker. He just not that great of a finisher at the rim. He is elite at drawing contact though, so it offsets some of that.

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    Has nothing to do with the refs. Tony Parker is a great finisher. He gets in the lane and converts lay ups at a ridiculous rate. Sure, Westbrook is super athletic, but there is a reason he shoots such a terrible FG% and it's not just missed jump shots.

    He drives quite a bit, but really struggles to finish. He misses dunks and a vast array of layups. He hasn't learned to control his body at top speeds like a Parker. He just not that great of a finisher at the rim. He is elite at drawing contact though, so it offsets some of that.
    He gets alot of help from the refs. He goes to the FT line alot.

    He's also not good at running a team. He still relies on his athleticism more than anything else.

    I don't think Rose's offensive game is good enough to get the Bulls to the ECF even with a healthy Noah and Boozer.

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    I'm not arguing that CP3 is better. I expected more from Rose last night, but his impact didn't occur till late after the Bulls had already taken the lead. CP3 didn't do much either. Thornton was the one who gave the nets a big lead in the first place.

    Rose is still the best PG this season, but he has a lot to work on.
    Completely agree with that. I still question his patience and decision making on the fast break. He likes to turn on the jets too much instead of waiting for the wings to develop. Rose is certainly more turnover prone but at the same time he sees a lot more defensive attention than most point guards because he's such a scoring threat. It's rare that he doesn't have at least 2 defenders on him when he crosses half court.

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    Rose is still the best PG this season, but he has a lot to work on.
    If Rose is the best pg in the league, how much more work does he actually have to do? Other than consistancy?

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    Rose is also not the best PG in the league. Paul is. Rose is playing great though.

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    If Rose is the best pg in the league, how much more work does he actually have to do? Other than consistancy?
    His shooting, especially mid-range jumpers and his turnovers.

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    Rose is also not the best PG in the league. Paul is. Rose is playing great though.
    Paul does run a team better than anyone else in the league.

    Rose may be just a SG who happens to run the point. Same as Westbrook and in an extreme case D-Will. All three can get their own shots, but don't run a team as well as CP3 or Nash and make turnovers.

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    With all that, I still respect Rose embracing his role as a franchise player.

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