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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/ed...gewanted=print

    Not only are the proposed cuts to school aid draconian, but the state Legislature in 2006 put strict limits how much districts can raise local property taxes. That means local school boards find themselves trapped between rising enrollment, double-digit drops in state aid and frozen local taxes.


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    red-state bubbas, always Messing With Texas and making it better.

    and we're starting from such a high level, we have plenty to cut out:

    State Sen. Wendy Davis says Texas ranks 44th in education spending per student

    http://politifact.com/texas/statemen...s-44th-educat/

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    And obviously the only way to generate money for school funding is via property taxes.......there couldn't possibly be another solution......could there?

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    Good...the school districts needed a wakeup call. Average district in Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education.

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    its texas. eliminate all science classes.

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    Good...the school districts needed a wakeup call. Average district in Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education.
    You Lie......we need to raise property taxes.

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    I can't type that with a straight face.

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    Here in the UAC, we need Neo s, repugs, un able, bubbas.

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    You lie.

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    Good...the school districts needed a wakeup call. Average district in Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education.
    yeah Let's starve the schools! And then blame the Teacher's Union when it goes to !

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    "Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education."

    please post link school districts' public budgets.

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    "Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education."

    please post link school districts' public budgets.
    Looks like the figure is in the 60% range.

    http://www.tasbo.org/files-public/pu...ondollar09.pdf
    "In terms of the purpose of educational expenditures, the largest share of dollars allocated goes to instruction (61 percent), and this is also unchanged since 2003-04. Included in the area of instruction are the salaries and benefits costs of 299,000 teachers and 56,000 instructional aides who work in Texas classrooms. Also included here are the cost associated with 4,800 librarians and the cost of library materials as well as staff development costs."

    Now, you can till your face turns blue, but what's your solution? I've yet to actually see you posit a cogent stance on education.

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    "Texas spends 80% of their money on not directly related to education."

    please post link school districts' public budgets.
    please go yourself.

    The 2008-2009 numbers (last year available) Texas spent $11,084 per kid. The math should be pretty easy even for an idiot like you.

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    Money spent per student is the most base of metrics. It's a figure that means, really, very little.

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    I can multiply by .8.

    I'm not disagreeing that public schools don't spend efficiently, but since you make the 80% quan ative claim, you provide the evidence.

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    Money spent per student is the most base of metrics. It's a figure that means, really, very little.
    Oh really? It seems pretty simple.

    In the same year the average teachers pay was $47,000 a year.

    Figure the average teacher had 22 kids in the class.

    That's $243,914.00

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    Boutons, So by that theory, I want proof of a VRWC........you know, the one you mention in EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR POSTS.

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    You missed my point. A simple $/student metric has no value whatsoever in quantifying the quality or lack thereof, of education delivered.

    Btw...I think your 22 kids/class avg. is a bit optimistic. Current regulations set class sizes at 25:1 max for elementary and middle school.

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    You missed my point. A simple $/student metric has no value whatsoever in quantifying the quality or lack thereof, of education delivered.

    Btw...I think your 22 kids/class avg. is a bit optimistic. Current regulations set class sizes at 25:1 max for elementary and middle school.
    I agree. there is NO relationship between dollars spent and educational delivered.

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    *Waiting on boutonski's proposed solution*


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    There is a strong relationship between quality of the teachers and student success. If teachers were paid $100K year and entry barriers to obtaining such a salary were high enough to assure quality applicants, we'd see some improvements.

    Too many teachers seem to the ones who took Home Economics in HS and went to teacher college because the entry barriers were low.

    I saw another idea that said all of a school's admin staff MUST have come up through the teacher ranks, and not be "business" or non-teacher professional administrator types, like Bloomberg's new non-teacher "business" hire to be chancellor of NYC schools.

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    I agree. there is NO relationship between dollars spent and educational delivered.
    Sincerely,

    A guy who has no idea what happens in schools on a daily basis

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    Sincerely,

    A guy who has no idea what happens in schools on a daily basis
    Sincerely

    A guy who the education system clearly failed

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    Sincerely

    A guy who the education system clearly failed
    I went to private school for 12 yrs. Don't you think compensating the most qualified teachers is important?

    Then there is a correllation between money and education..


    That was REALLY easy to debunk

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    I went to private school for 12 yrs. Don't you think compensating the most qualified teachers is important?

    Then there is a correllation between money and education..


    That was REALLY easy to debunk
    The current education system in Texas does not allow the best teachers to get extra compensation. There is no relationship between pay and results.

    Debunk.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    The current education system in Texas does not allow the best teachers to get extra compensation. There is no relationship between pay and results.

    Debunk.
    So the good teachers who go to higher paying school districts don't make any difference... mmm ok.

    rebunked

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