Ian Mahinmi Update

[Dr. Gonzo]

Popa should have been fired for not playing Ian 34+ minutes a game.

[ChuckD]

Personally, Spurs should have pad Ian a small fee and retain him. Splitter and Ian could have been a decent future. Bonner, ha! Looks like the Mavs will be shopping Haywood before the deadline. He is obviously in the doghouse and doesn't get along with Carlisle well enough to stay. If he does stay I'd be surprised but I don't know how much he makes or his contract.

The Spurs didn't want Ian. If they had, they wouldn't have allowed him to become unrestricted. Ian didn't want to stay. He knew he wouldn't play. Definitely a case where both parties got what they wanted.

[Obstructed_View]

That's the point right there. I watch my share of the Mavs games too. And when given playing time, Ian isn't stinking it up at all. In fact, he's being a factor. Providing good energy, rebounding, defense and hustle. He's earning more time, at the expense of a player (Haywood), who has a longer, more illustrious resume than he has. And Ian has done it by continuing to work hard in practice and in games. As a result he has earned the coaches favor and trust. That's the sole point of this original post.

It's that big massive contract extension BH signed that's the biggest stumbling block for Ian. Coaches get a lot of pressure from front offices to play guys making that much money, which is why Haywood's getting double the minutes that Ian gets. A sign of Mahinnmi's effectiveness is that he's putting up the same numbers as Haywood despite that.

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The Spurs didn't want Ian. If they had, they wouldn't have allowed him to become unrestricted. Ian didn't want to stay. He knew he wouldn't play. Definitely a case where both parties got what they wanted.

Yeah if it's this hard for Splitter to get minutes, Ian would have been lucky to be in uniform as a Spur this season.

[tuncaboylu]

Mahimni getting more playing time, passing up Haywood on the Mavs depth chart. I personally believe Splitter is a better player, but just going by playing time, some can argue that Mahimni is the better player.

It's because Haywood is a lazy player. Splitter would pass up Haywood in Dallas lie Mahinmi. Mahinmi will not be more than a 5th big in a contender.

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It's because Haywood is a lazy player. Splitter would pass up Haywood in Dallas lie Mahinmi. Mahinmi will not be more than a 5th big in a contender.

Um...the Mavs are a lottery team?

[tuncaboylu]

Um...the Mavs are a lottery team?

No but they're desperate. I'm sure that they aren't happy to give Mahinmi such a big role. Their other bigs are Haywood and Cardinal !

[EricB]

I'm quite surprised that more of the posters in this forum haven't been snapped up by NBA front offices to take personnel positions.

Game, set, match.

[Obstructed_View]

No but they're desperate. I'm sure that they aren't happy to give Mahinmi such a big role. Their other bigs are Haywood and Cardinal !

Actually, their other bigs are Chandler and Haywood. They certainly aren't happy that he's outplaying a guy who they just signed for 55 million dollars.

[tuncaboylu]

Actually, their other bigs are Chandler and Haywood. They certainly aren't happy that he's outplaying a guy who they just signed for 55 million dollars.

Cuban will never be a clever man.

First Dampier, then Haywood.

[ceperez]

I never said anything about his potential. I live in Dallas and watch the games. He's worked his way past Haywood, and he's contributing to wins. And I guess you just conveniently missed his efficiency rating when you were poring over his stats (as well as the fact that he's now appeared in more NBA games as a Maverick than as a Spur). I'm perfectly happy with the lineup the Spurs have, but anyone that says Mahinmi can't play are paying about as much attention as they always have.

Agree that he is a servicable big that is definitely worth the minimum Dallas is paying him.

Blair has more talent.
Splitter has better skills.

Still I still think he should habe been kept in the roster for the minimum.

[ChuckD]

Agree that he is a servicable big that is definitely worth the minimum Dallas is paying him.

Blair has more talent.
Splitter has better skills.

Still I still think he should habe been kept in the roster for the minimum.

You act like the Spurs had the choice. He was unrestricted.

"Hey Ian, come take minimum to sit on the bench (or in a suit), when if we had picked up your option, you'd be making twice that."

Yeah, I'm sure he would have pushed people away to sign that.

[temujin]

This is the sign of the -winning- times for ST.

Gone are the Luis Scola threads.

Now about Mainhimi.

Next up will be how Mange Bateer is doing in the Borneo championship.

[K-State Spur]

Mahimni getting more playing time, passing up Haywood on the Mavs depth chart. I personally believe Splitter is a better player, but just going by playing time, some can argue that Mahimni is the better player.

Splitter has played more this season than Ian has.

Contrary to what Carlisle states, I still think this says more about Haywood's production (or lack of) than Ian.

Ian's a nice talent who would have been a good rotation player for us if he could have ever a) stayed healthy and b) avoided fouls.

[K-State Spur]

Cuban will never be a clever man.

First Dampier, then Haywood.

Actually: First Dampier...then Diop...then Haywood.

[MannyIsGod]

Actually, their other bigs are Chandler and Haywood. They certainly aren't happy that he's outplaying a guy who they just signed for 55 million dollars.

You can't even make the most mundane of cases for ian without hyperbole like this. How many games has ian outplayed haywood? Maybe 2?

[Harry Callahan]

Why would anyone take on Haywood when he has four more years and $40MM plus guaranteed to him over the next four+ years? His abilities do not justify his contract and that was the case the moment pen went to paper. Cuban bid against himself a little bit (nothing new there).

The Mavies had no centers when they signed him, and he turned into a dog when he was relegated to the bench. Now they will have to overpay Chandler unless the CBA changes dramatically.

Ian is a nice talent and definitely NOT a bust. SA had to make a money decision and not pick up his option ($3.5-4MM cap charge). Too bad, because he did have something to offer even with his limitations experience wise and foul/mistake wise.

[galvatron3000]

The Spurs didn't want Ian. If they had, they wouldn't have allowed him to become unrestricted. Ian didn't want to stay. He knew he wouldn't play. Definitely a case where both parties got what they wanted.

I understand that I was giving my view in contrast to theirs. Why the Spurs didn't want Ian must have been internal because he is a raw athletic Big that could have been groomed by Duncan, may not have ever been an All star but certainly serviceable.

[SenorSpur]

Agreed.

It's also nice to see and hear from all the "holier-than-thou", sarcastic, aristrocrats of ST. No thread can ever be legitimized unless it's blessed by their retorts.

[K-State Spur]

I understand that I was giving my view in contrast to theirs. Why the Spurs didn't want Ian must have been internal because he is a raw athletic Big that could have been groomed by Duncan, may not have ever been an All star but certainly serviceable.

The problem is that he's been a raw athletic big for 6 years. At some point you've got to either or get off the pot.

I'm rooting for Ian (against anybody except for the Spurs) - but I see no fallacy in logic with preferring to go with Duncan/Blair/Dyess/Bonner/Splitter for this season. You can even throw in Richards as the current "raw" development project at the moment.

I'd rather have Ian than Novak or the empty roster slots - but the fact of the matter is that he was getting pretty expensive to be the last guy on the bench.

[E-RockWill]

The problem is that he's been a raw athletic big for 6 years. At some point you've got to either or get off the pot.

I'm rooting for Ian (against anybody except for the Spurs) - but I see no fallacy in logic with preferring to go with Duncan/Blair/Dyess/Bonner/Splitter for this season. You can even throw in Richards as the current "raw" development project at the moment.

I'd rather have Ian than Novak or the empty roster slots - but the fact of the matter is that he was getting pretty expensive to be the last guy on the bench.

This exactly. Ian is a nice kid & worked hard. He was a great pick up for the Mavs.

[fitzgerald]

That's the point right there. I watch my share of the Mavs games too. And when given playing time, Ian isn't stinking it up at all. In fact, he's being a factor. Providing good energy, rebounding, defense and hustle. He's earning more time, at the expense of a player (Haywood), who has a longer, more illustrious resume than he has. And Ian has done it by continuing to work hard in practice and in games. As a result he has earned the coaches favor and trust. That's the sole point of this original post.

I see the same thing you do. I would not give Haywood more minutes than Ian any game. (unless of foul trouble) He works hard. He hustles. He rebounds. Better touch than all the other centers on Mavs. With more minutes he will definitely contribute come playoff time. Been pleasantly surprised and happy with Ian.

[Obstructed_View]

You can't even make the most mundane of cases for ian without hyperbole like this. How many games has ian outplayed haywood? Maybe 2?

Gotta look at the minutes, genius.

[Dr. Gonzo]

You can even throw in Richards as the current "raw" development project at the moment.

Ryan Richards Thread!!!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Remember when everyone was crying for Pops Mensah-Bonsu as being the next great big guy in San Anto because he could dunk. That was funny.