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  1. 02-15-2011 #1
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    I was thinking today and started to wonder after seeing that the Spurs dont have any player who averages over 20 PPG. I thought I would check all NBA champions to see if there was ever any team that didnt have a 20 PPG players on thier team. At first look, I dont think I will find any Championships teams with no player averaging over 20 PPG, but Im gonna do the research and see what I come up with. Details soon. DID the research. check out the results in later posts.On another note, Did anyone notice the Spurs knocked off two 3 peat champoins..aka the Bulls(95-98) and LA LAKERS (99-02)



    YEAR..... CHAMPION
    2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers
    2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers
    2007-08 Boston Celtics
    2006-07 San Antonio Spurs
    2005-06 Miami Heat
    2004-05 San Antonio Spurs
    2003-04 Detroit Pistons
    2002-03 San Antonio Spurs
    2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers
    2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 San Antonio Spurs
    1997-98 Chicago Bulls
    1996-97 Chicago Bulls
    1995-96 Chicago Bulls
    1994-95 Houston Rockets
    1993-94 Houston Rockets
    1992-93 Chicago Bulls
    1991-92 Chicago Bulls
    1990-91 Chicago Bulls
    1989-90 Detroit Pistons
    1988-89 Detroit Pistons
    1987-88 Los Angeles
    1986-87 Los Angeles
    1985-86 Boston Celtics
    1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers
    1983-84 Boston Celtics
    1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers L
    1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers
    1980-81 Boston Celtics
    1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers
    1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics
    1977-78 Washington Bullets
    1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers
    1975-76 Boston Celtics
    1974-75 Golden State Warriors
    1973-74 Boston Celtics
    1972-73 New York Knicks
    1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers
    1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks
    1969-70 New York Knicks
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    whatever rocks your boat, man.
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    Spurs didn't "knock off" the Bulls. Jordan retired, and the Spurs won the following year.

    You are right about beating the Lakers after their 3-peat though.
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    Knocked off the Bulls ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bito Corleone
    Spurs didn't "knock off" the Bulls. Jordan retired, and the Spurs won the following year.

    You are right about beating the Lakers after their 3-peat though.
    Didnt mean to say we beat them, just stopped their streak.
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    1988-89 Pistons
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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/1989.html
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/1990.html
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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2004.html
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    I've felt all season that the Spurs are kind of a throwback team. Here are few teams that won the le without a 20ppg scorer

    Pistons - '04
    Pistons - '90
    Pistons - '89
    Seattle - '79
    Bullets - '78
    Celtics - '76
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    Manu will average 20+ppg in the playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itzsoweezee
    I've felt all season that the Spurs are kind of a throwback team. Here are few teams that won the le without a 20ppg scorer

    Pistons - '04
    Pistons - '90
    Pistons - '89
    Seattle - '79
    Bullets - '78
    Celtics - '76
    3 of the last 4 ones beat the Lakers
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    08 celtics didn't have a 20ppg scorer either.
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    wow, the pistons not only donīt have a 20ppg scorer but they also donīt have a 20 points per36 player.

    We donīt have a 20ppg scorer but we have Ginobili scoring 20.7 per 36 mins.

    Also Tony is at 19.1 and TD is at 16.8

    It wouldnīt be strange if the big 3 averages 36 mins thruout the playoffs.
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    You need to get an Avvy of Yoda before Lucas raped and ruined Star Wars forever..

    in prequels..
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    Just realized that no spur player is averageing less than 10 ppg per 36 mins.
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    thanks for the info. After looking up last 40 years, I came up with the teams in bold as the only teams having noone over 20PPg.
    The 03-04 Pistons had the lowest avg at 17.6 with Hamilton, which I think is impressive. Same Team to beat the heavy favored Lakers too. these Pistons really had a great team.


    YEAR..... CHAMPION
    2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers
    2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers
    2007-08 Boston Celtics --Pierce 19.60 PPG
    2006-07 San Antonio Spurs
    2005-06 Miami Heat
    2004-05 San Antonio Spurs
    2003-04 Detroit Pistons --Hamilton 17.6
    2002-03 San Antonio Spurs
    2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers
    2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers
    1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers
    1998-99 San Antonio Spurs
    1997-98 Chicago Bulls
    1996-97 Chicago Bulls
    1995-96 Chicago Bulls
    1994-95 Houston Rockets
    1993-94 Houston Rockets
    1992-93 Chicago Bulls
    1991-92 Chicago Bulls
    1990-91 Chicago Bulls
    1989-90 Detroit Pistons--thomas 18.4 ppg
    1988-89 Detroit Pistons -- Dantley 18.4 ppg
    1987-88 Los Angeles
    1986-87 Los Angeles
    1985-86 Boston Celtics
    1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers
    1983-84 Boston Celtics
    1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers L
    1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers
    1980-81 Boston Celtics
    1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers
    1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics--Williams 19.2 PPG
    1977-78 Washington Bullets-- Hayes 19.7 PPG
    1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers
    1975-76 Boston Celtics
    1974-75 Golden State Warriors
    1973-74 Boston Celtics ----Dave Cowens 19.0 ppg
    1972-73 New York Knicks
    1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers
    1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks
    1969-70 New York Knicks
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    Here is the top scorer for each team and his avg for last 40 years.
    temas with top scorer less then 20 PPG in bold.

    currently, our top scorers are Manu at 17.9 and TP at 17.3 PPG
    If trend continued and we , we would have the team with the lowest Avg for a top scorer....


    YEAR..... CHAMPION --top Scorer and Avg
    2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers --Kobe 27.00
    2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers --Kobe 26.8
    2007-08 Boston Celtics -- Pierce- 19.6
    2006-07 San Antonio Spurs --Duncan 20.00
    2005-06 Miami Heat -- Wade 27.2
    2004-05 San Antonio Spurs--Duncan 20.3
    2003-04 Detroit Pistons -- Hamilton 17.6
    2002-03 San Antonio Spurs--Duncan 23.3
    2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers --Oneal 27.2
    2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers -- Oneal 28.7
    8.71999-00 Los Angeles Lakers --Oneal 29.7
    1998-99 San Antonio Spurs -- Duncan 21.7
    1997-98 Chicago Bulls -Jordan 2
    1996-97 Chicago Bulls --Jordan 29.6
    1995-96 Chicago Bulls -- Jordan 30.4
    1994-95 Houston Rockets --Hakeem 27.8
    1993-94 Houston Rockets --Hakeem 24.00
    1992-93 Chicago Bulls --Jordan 32.6
    1991-92 Chicago Bulls-- Jordan 30.10
    1990-91 Chicago Bulls --Jordan 31.50
    1989-90 Detroit Pistons --Thomas 18.4
    1988-89 Detroit Pistons --Dantley 18.4
    1987-88 Los Angeles --Johnson 23.9
    1986-87 Los Angeles -- Scott 21.7
    1985-86 Boston Celtics -- Bird 25.8
    1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers--Kareem 22.00
    1983-84 Boston Celtics -- Bird 24.2
    1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers--Malone 24.5
    1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers --Kareem 23.9
    1980-81 Boston Celtics -- Bird 21.2
    1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers -- Kareem 24.8
    1978-79 Seattle SuperSonics-- Williams 19.2
    1977-78 Washington Bullets -- Hayes 19.7
    1976-77 Portland Trail Blazers-- Lucas 20.2
    1975-76 Boston Celtics -- cowens 19.00
    1974-75 Golden State Warriors --Berry 30.6
    1973-74 Boston Celtics -- Havelcek 22.6
    1972-73 New York Knicks --Frazier 21.1
    1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers -- Goodwich 25.9
    1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks -- Kareem 31.4
    1969-70 New York Knicks -- Reed 21.7
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    Quote Originally Posted by 024
    08 celtics didn't have a 20ppg scorer either.
    So that makes ot 4 of the last 5 champions without 20 ppg scorers that beat the Lakers
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    that makes it 4 of the last 5 champions without 20 ppg scorers that beat the Lakers
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    Jordan 32.6 in 1993 is highest ever ppg while winning the championship. GOAT
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    These guys stats are strangely so similar to our current top 4 scorers, Manu , TP, Duncan and RJ. It's amazing that they follow the same order in positions: SG, PG, PF and SF. Now let's just hope Blair is Big Ben. That's where the difference lies , defense. the million $ question is can we play d like the pistons ?

    1Richard Hamilton17.6 pts 2Chauncey Billups16.9 3Rasheed Wallace13.7 4Tayshaun Prince10.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by analyzed
    These guys stats are strangely so similar to our current top 4 scorers, Manu , TP, Duncan and RJ. It's amazing that they follow the same order in positions: SG, PG, PF and SF. Now let's just hope Blair is Big Ben. That's where the difference lies , defense. the million $ question is can we play d like the pistons ?

    1Richard Hamilton17.6 pts 2Chauncey Billups16.9 3Rasheed Wallace13.7 4Tayshaun Prince10.3
    Maybe not as a defender, but Blair can get the boards and consistantly score way more than Big Ben.
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    Copy+paste error on Jordan 97-98 seasons? I don't doubt he ever averaged so low with the Bulls. Checking...

    Yeap, 28.7 on 97-98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty
    Copy+paste error on Jordan 97-98 seasons? I don't doubt he ever averaged so low with the Bulls. Checking...

    Yeap, 28.7 on 97-98
    typo...i was tiried lookig up. corrected
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaji157
    Just realized that no spur player is averageing less than 10 ppg per 36 mins.
    could someone confirm this? does this include quinn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YODA
    Didnt mean to say we beat them, just stopped their streak.
    We didn't stop their streak, either. MJ retired and they went into the tank. The Bulls haven't had a 50-win season since.
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