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    Well at least they're being honest about it...

    Article.

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    Subsidizing jobs is making the subsidizers hurt.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Subsidizing jobs is making the subsidizers hurt.
    Will he then stop asking, "where are the jobs mr president?"

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    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
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    Will he then stop asking, "where are the jobs mr president?"
    It's a taunt reminding the president he cannot create jobs.

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    Subsidizing jobs is making the subsidizers hurt.
    But subsidizing oil is not?

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    However much spending cuts would hurt, austerity would hurt much more.

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    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
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    But subsidizing oil is not?
    I am not in favor of oil subsidies, corn subsidies, etc.

    Why are you trying to change the argument?

    Start a new thread please, if you wish to go there.

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    I agree. tough .

    Just a few weeks ago the libs in here were justifying the higher than average federal salaries and benefits because "they were smarter and better qualified" than equivalent private sector workers. If so, they should have no problem finding new jobs.

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    "average federal salaries and benefits because "they were smarter and better qualified" than equivalent private sector workers."

    Still spouting that lie? it was thoroughly debunked.

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    So Boehner wants to put more people on unemployment? Well, so be it! *and Boehner made it so*

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    So Boehner wants to put more people on unemployment? Well, so be it! *and Boehner made it so*
    According to Nancy Pelosi unemployment benefits stimulate the economy, so there's nothing to worry about.

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    According to Nancy Pelosi unemployment benefits stimulate the economy, so there's nothing to worry about.
    Nancy Pelosi stimulates my bowels.

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    nancy pelosi stimulates my bowels.
    Don't ask, don't tell.

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    I am not in favor of oil subsidies, corn subsidies, etc.

    Why are you trying to change the argument?

    Start a new thread please, if you wish to go there.
    I'm not changing the argument, obviously. We're talking about subsidies hurting the subsidizers. That would include all subsidies.

    I'll take your point you're against oil and corn subsidy, thanks.

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    It would be nice to be a fed employee, especially in California.

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    According to Nancy Pelosi unemployment benefits stimulate the economy, so there's nothing to worry about.

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    I'm not changing the argument, obviously. We're talking about subsidies hurting the subsidizers. That would include all subsidies.

    I'll take your point you're against oil and corn subsidy, thanks.
    And others.

    Can you think of a subsidy I like?

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    "average federal salaries and benefits because "they were smarter and better qualified" than equivalent private sector workers."

    Still spouting that lie? it was thoroughly debunked.
    Thing is, I'm pretty sure the equivalent private sector jobs pays more. I think you are missing the argument.

    The average government job pays more than the average private sector job.

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    "average government job pays more than the average private sector job"

    You Lie

    Not when corrected for years of service and education.

    Even if Your Lie were true, your position is that govt workers need to have their incomes cut rather than private sector workers getting their fair piece of the American Dream with higher incomes and benefits.

    Since St Ronnie, average household real income has stagnated, productivity is up, while the superwealthy pockets all the gains.

    Your position is basically: Govt workers should share in getting ed over like private employees.

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    Your position is basically: Govt workers should share in getting ed over like private employees.
    Seems a fair nuts of WC's take to me. That's really all you needed to say.

    The rest of your post was boilerplate. Dross, more or less.





    (Less is more, dude.)

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    Veteran Wild Cobra's Avatar
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    You Lie

    Not when corrected for years of service and education.
    Corrected for years of service and education?

    WTF?

    Most government jobs are white collar desk jobs. Executives in US corporations get paid quite well and have great benefits packages. It's only some equivalent jobs that the public sector gets paid more than the private sector.
    Even if Your Lie were true, your position is that govt workers need to have their incomes cut rather than private sector workers getting their fair piece of the American Dream with higher incomes and benefits.
    You don't know what my argument is, so you make one up.

    God... You are such a loser.

    I am only correcting your false statement.
    Since St Ronnie, average household real income has stagnated, productivity is up, while the superwealthy pockets all the gains.
    Hmmmm....

    Seems to me it has been doing that all my life. It has occurred before president Reagan, and after. It's a trend that occurs regardless who is in office.
    Your position is basically: Govt workers should share in getting ed over like private employees.
    No...

    My position is that the gravy train is over. They have to realize that we are running low of tax payers who are not government employees.

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    Bogus denial. That's plain agreement, WC.

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    "My position is that the gravy train is over. "

    You position that the govt employees are on a gravy is bull .

    Private employees

    And you don't mention why your bogus "gravy train" is over.

    The UCA capitalists and corps have run the country, even the planet, into the ter.

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    Well at least they're being honest about it...

    Article.
    Unless of course those jobs are in his district. Then his chicken ass will just vote to "abstain".

    Boner abstained from a vote that would cut funding for a second engine for the JSF. Yes, the company providing that engine is in his district.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Thing is, I'm pretty sure the equivalent private sector jobs pays more. I think you are missing the argument.

    The average government job pays more than the average private sector job.
    That is because the average government job requires a greater skillset and knowledge base than the average private sector job.

    Such statements are misleading at best, beacuse it leaves out half the truth.

    When one starts comparing actual equivalent jobs, the differences tend to disappear.

    (edit)

    This seems to have already been hashed out.

    Not sure what your point is.????

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