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    I think Beau is better than Hill and Neal (when fully healthy, that is).
    Better than Neal, yes. But not Hill. Atleast not yet...especially defensively.

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    I too think Beau can be what the Mavs need to pass over the Spurs.
    I really panicked every time this kid touched the ball, fast as . I'm hoping the old "everyone, but Dirk, will choke" legend runs true if we meet again in the WCF.

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    french allah-13 pts, 6 asst, 6-13 FGA
    puerto rican mj-11 pts, 10 asst, 5-8 FGA
    olajuwon splitter-18 pts, 9 reb, 7-8 FGA

    lol savior

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    NT? more like SO i said
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    As of now Hill>Beaubois because Roddy hasn't really established anything for his career other than a couple of small outbursts but I think we can all agree that in 1-2 years he will surpass Hill

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    As of now Hill>Beaubois because Roddy hasn't really established anything for his career other than a couple of small outbursts but I think we can all agree that in 1-2 years he will surpass Hill
    On offense yes, but I think Hill will be the better defender.

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    On offense yes, but I think Hill will be the better defender.
    Roddy's #1 issue on defense comes on his team defense (especially in zone), which will come with experience. In terms of playing straight man, he is actually a very good defender, sticks his man well, and his long arms allows him to create turnovers as well.

    His defense isn't bad due to an inability to play it well, such as is the case for someone like Barea. It's bad because he is inexperienced.

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    Hill is a great defender
    a great defender who got completely face ed by goran ing dragic

    LMAO

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    no one here said Kidd, JET, and barea are capable defenders though.

    you have a lot to learn about trolling, young grasshopper

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    a great defender who got completely face ed by goran ing dragic

    LMAO
    Kidd << Hill << Dragic

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    Kidd, Barea and Terry all can play decent in the Mavs zone defense, so thats at least some plus for their usual suspect man-to-man defense (well, Kidd plays that well against bigger guards too)

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    NT? more like SO i said
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    On offense yes, but I think Hill will be the better defender.
    Fair enough

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    gots right about one thing..we sure aren't as good defensively as we were at the beginning of the year. we need a real wing who can defend to take peja's spot in the rotation.. ty signing. butler for sjax, iggy, etc still needs to be looked into at all costs. having 3 midgets in the rotation is ing us.
    peja has not been as bad as you suggest. sure hes not quite Butler on defense, but he hasnt been just flat out horrible either. and the quick trigger he has with his shot helps the offense flow better, because far too often Butler would have a wide open look, hesitate, then get trapped by his defender, so he would do a crossover then fade-away, often stagnating the flow of the offense. with all the wide-open looks Peja is getting (thanks to Kidd, Dirk, and now Roddy), as he keeps getting more in sync, these shots are going to be falling at a ridiculous rate. i feel the team is going to be much better off offensively by letting Peja take the spot-up shooting duties, and letting Roddy be the #2 offensive creator, instead of Butler. and fact is, the main complaints we have had about this team all year is how the offense stagnated at times, allowing the opponent to get out and get easy transition buckets, and Butler had a lot to do with that. Beaubois can fix that, as well as the spacing of Peja.

    i think the team defense as a whole has slacked a bit, and I think it looks also like the team generally isn't all that interested anymore, like they are just waiting for the playoffs to get here before going all out. we will have to just wait and see though.

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    Roddy's #1 issue on defense comes on his team defense (especially in zone), which will come with experience. In terms of playing straight man, he is actually a very good defender, sticks his man well, and his long arms allows him to create turnovers as well.

    His defense isn't bad due to an inability to play it well, such as is the case for someone like Barea. It's bad because he is inexperienced.
    I actually agree with jjkktt (however its spelled). Hill has the body type to be an elite NBA defender. Whether or not he'll live up to it, we don't know, but the way he's built I think he is more apt to handle the bigger guards in this league.

    Beaubois is quick as but he's only 6 feet tall so I'm worried about the his inability to handle bigger guards

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    Kidd, Barea and Terry all can play decent in the Mavs zone defense, so thats at least some plus for their usual suspect man-to-man defense (well, Kidd plays that well against bigger guards too)
    of course Kidd has problems keeping fast guards like CP3, Aaron Brooks, TP, and Rose in front of him. but what most people quickly seem to forget, is WHO THE CAN?

    Kidd is not nearly as bad on defense as people make him out to be. Yeah, he's lost a step or two, but generally, he holds his own quite well still.

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    time will tell but for the Spurs would not trade either one - short fast PGs are a dime a dozen, ala Speedy Claxon types and one 40 point game with his inconistency see above by Secko needs to temper the enthusiasm. LOL on him defending a Kobe as well as Hill.
    His minutes were too inconsistent to know if he was inconsistent.
    When he had the opportunity he was consistent (5 games streak playing over 20 minutes for 17 ppg). I have no doubt he can be a great scorer. What is not clear is if he can be more than that.

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    Hill averaged like 16 ppg during the second half last season when Parker was out. He was the starting PG during their turnaround and during the series win over the Mavs. Yall are talking of Roddy hypothetically averaging something that Hill has already averaged

    Defensively, I dont think theres even an argument as to who's better. Right now Hill>Roddy and thats pretty apparent. Hill's offensive game should develope over time too, and although he doesnt seem to have the same tools that Roddy does to be as explosive...he could still average 15-20 ppg in the near future. Couple that with the clear advantage he has on defense, and Im not sure that Roddy will be far and away the better player years from now. Not unless Roddy actually ends up being Isiah Thomas Jr.

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    I actually agree with jjkktt (however its spelled). Hill has the body type to be an elite NBA defender. Whether or not he'll live up to it, we don't know, but the way he's built I think he is more apt to handle the bigger guards in this league.

    Beaubois is quick as but he's only 6 feet tall so I'm worried about the his inability to handle bigger guards
    He's more like 6'2, and has that ridiculous 6'10 wingspan. His lankiness worries me more than his height, which is made up for in his wingspan. But when guys try posting him up, then thats when he becomes a concern physically. Then again, if a PG is getting posted up, the team defense has more than enough opportunity to get over and help him out, so it doesnt worry me that much.

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    a great defender who got completely face ed by goran ing dragic

    LMAO
    Last years news tbh. Go watch the Lakers/Spurs 1st game this year and watch how Hill defended Kobe.

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    well let me clarify, you're right about one thing, that peja was a quality pickup for the TIME BEING. we needed some help on offense terribly, until beaubois got back. poor dirk has no help and peja has hit some shots and can help us win a few regular season games, no doubt about it.

    my issue lies with not wanting him in the rotation come playoff time. dude can't be trusted and his defense will become more exposed then. we're kidding ourselves if we think we don't need to get something of value out of butler's expiring. dude's of no use to us sitting on the bench, and it's obvious that our defense really took a hit when he went down. we should look into finding someone somewhat similar to replace him.
    I think Peja's PT will go down in the playoffs though, while Marion's will go up. Having Butler back by then will help a lot too. Even if Butler isn't scoring well, at least having another sizable body off the bench to throw at guys like Kobe, Durant, Manu, and Melo will be a very good thing.

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    I actually agree with jjkktt (however its spelled). Hill has the body type to be an elite NBA defender. Whether or not he'll live up to it, we don't know, but the way he's built I think he is more apt to handle the bigger guards in this league.

    Beaubois is quick as but he's only 6 feet tall so I'm worried about the his inability to handle bigger guards
    One of the few guys in the league that guards both quick and bigger PGs one day. Durant the next. And Kobe to end the week.

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    Last years news tbh. Go watch the Lakers/Spurs 1st game this year and watch how Hill defended Kobe.
    right. because one game early in a regular season should be a great barometer on how a 3rd year bench player can guard arguably one of the 5 greatest players in NBA history.

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    if roddy is actually 6-2, then charles barkley was a 7 footer

    its not just his height though...dude looks like he weights like 150 lbs on top of itt

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    if roddy is actually 6-2, then charles barkley was a 7 footer

    its not just his height though...dude looks like he weights like 150 lbs on top of itt
    No, Roddy is actually 6-2. Maybe taller. I forgot what video it was, but I have seen him stand right next to Deshawn Stevenson and Jason Terry in practice, and you can tell he isn't 6-0.

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    And we have seen the Spurs try to defend Roddy, it wasn't pretty. Of course now they have the opportunity to scout him so it will be interesting to see what Pop does.

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    Manu > Roddy

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