That's like saying if Durant could get in, so should Fisher.
Chris Webber YES
Rasheed Wallace NO
Chauncey Billups NO
Marc Jackson NO
Dikembe Mutombo YES
Alonzo Mourning YES
Robert Horry NO
Tracy McGrady NO
Grant Hill YES
Vince Carter NO
That's like saying if Durant could get in, so should Fisher.
Bostonguy is right again ...are some of you freaking delirious? Sheed in the HOF? Chauncey? no.
Deke yes. Zo too though his case would of been stronger without the kidney issue. Hill and Tmac the same, but the case is weaker.
Vince? Well he will have numbers but my guess like in the NFL when the passing game screwed up the numbers or baseball with 'roids... my guess is that scorers that did little else will be devalued ...
Webber maybe ... Hill I dont see how but college does count so I guess maybe yes ..
But TMac no college ...and Chauncey went to a name school and his international role was minimal so i say no.
Mutombo and Mourning would be my picks. No chance on Hill; I don't care how good he could have been. Otherwise you have to open the flood gates for Penny Hardaway, TMac, Michael Ray Richardson, Baron Davis, etc.
but it's not NBA its bball HOF ...college counts so Hill may sneak in ...
I like Horry better than any other vet FA SA ever signed, but in spite of the fact that he's the most clutch post-season mutha a in the history of the NBA, the fact remains that's he's a 7ppg player, and the HOF doesn't admit those.
Yeah, I didn't consider his Duke career. That would be the only thing that could sway me though.
Exactly my thought. There's too many guys who can do what Vince/Tmac do, that did it better, and got rings too.
If the Kings officially won the 2002 NBA le, would Webber be in the HOF?..
This.
Possibly Chauncey just b/c of the Finals MVP.
Deke and Zo should go in. Hill and Webber for me are on the fence. Vince Carter should be considered down the road, but probably is less deserving than say, Bernard King.
Without a doubt. I was actually expecting him to get a couple more yes's from posters...he's being extremely underrated imo. He might still get in despite not having that ring.
I don't think DJ should have gotten in, but I agree.
what I was saying was that since DJ is in and the numbers are almost identical (apart from the two extra rings with Bird and co), I can't see how they justify keeping Billups out.
I also think what might help Billups is that he should have some of the same east coast bias that DJ got.
CWEB was great but his peak was short ...
If he gets in the Fab 5 stuff would of been what put him over the top TBH ...
Co-sign Bernard King he needs to be in before some of these clowns ...
Saddest part was when he tore his knee the first time he was giving nique and MJ (IIRC) a serious run for the scoring le ...
Probably T-Mac, Carter, Mutombo, Horry (??? really no idea).. nvm.
actually I don't know at all, I think you can make cases for and against most of them, and you would have valid points.
Carter and T-Mac are/were too damn talented to not make it.
lol so true
If Fisher ever makes it I will instantly kill myself.
Probably not actually, but you get the point.
I don't think you can just dismiss two extra championships. For better or worse, those play in to the argument.
As well, he did make 7 more All-Defensive teams, six times on the first team. (Of which Billups was never chosen.)
Finally, I think that Boston has a lot more East Coast Bias Pull than Detroit has or will ever have. When I think East Coast bias, I think NY/Boston... not Detroit.
I really liked Chris Webber, and he was dominant during the early 2000's. But Lakers three-peat really killed his chances.
If he got a ring, I'd probably give him a 50/50 shot.
Couldn't agree more. You can dismiss rings in currently who is better debate ...but when you discuss legacy and HOF credentials rings are a factor.
Grant Hill, Dikembe, and Alonzo are the most obvious and strongest chances.
Chris Webber has a better chance than some of you think. I think he's borderline but he's close.
I don't think either Zo or Dikembe are locks, both also borderline.
Grant Hill is a very unique case. I tend to think he does get in on the strength of his college career.
The rest, no.
Comments like this crack me up everytime. The Queens choked, end of story.![]()
Last edited by LkrFan; 02-18-2011 at 02:00 AM.
Vince! Top 10 all time and shoe in for the HOF tbh.
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