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    AUSTIN, Texas – Texas is preparing to give college students and professors the right to carry guns on campus, adding momentum to a national campaign to open this part of society to firearms.
    More than half the members of the Texas House have signed on as co-authors of a measure directing universities to allow concealed handguns.

    The Senate passed a similar bill in 2009 and is expected to do so again. Republican Gov. Rick Perry, who sometimes packs a pistol when he jogs, has said he's in favor of the idea.

    Texas has become a prime battleground for the issue because of its gun culture and its size, with 38 public universities and more than 500,000 students. It would become the second state, following Utah, to pass such a broad-based law. Colorado gives colleges the option and several have allowed handguns.

    Supporters of the legislation argue that gun violence on campuses, such as the mass shootings at Virginia Tech in 2007 and Northern Illinois in 2008, show that the best defense against a gunman is students who can shoot back.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110220/...guns_on_campus

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    I'll drink to that!

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    Amazingly stupid republicans just being themselves.

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    Yeah, because criminals have been waiting for this legislation to start committing crimes on campuses around the State.

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    drunk and/or stressed and/or neurotic teenagers packing heat, a sure-fire combination for student safety.

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    drunk and/or stressed and/or neurotic teenagers packing heat, a sure-fire combination for student safety.
    Must be 21 to legally carry.

    Must be sober to legally carry.

    Next question?

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    plus you have to go thru a federal & state & local background check to have a permit.

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    plus you have to go thru a federal & state & local background check to have a permit.
    And training.

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    It helped in AZ

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    Well, the non sequitur not withstanding, it didn't hurt in Arizona, either.

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    Being armed did help in College Park, Ga.

    College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

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    Yeah, because criminals have been waiting for this legislation to start committing crimes on campuses around the State.
    No, but considering the demographics and the lifestyle of most of the people on campus I can understand some trepidation over this.

    I am going to guess that there will be more incidents involving shootings on campus than the shooting rampage we had 40 years ago with this in force.

    I may be wrong but I just know too well what college kids get like.

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    that happened in an an apartment (someone's living quarters) and not in the quad.

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    No, but considering the demographics and the lifestyle of most of the people on campus I can understand some trepidation over this.

    I am going to guess that there will be more incidents involving shootings on campus than the shooting rampage we had 40 years ago with this in force.

    I may be wrong but I just know too well what college kids get like.
    I think you are wrong. Where has this occurred in other places where concealed carry is allowed?

    If you want to combat something that is causing horrible carnage among our college kids, how 'bout drinking and driving?

    Should we revoke all driver licenses of college students out of fear they'll get drunk, act irresponsibly, and get someone killed? Because, that happens a lot more frequently than drunken frat boys grabbing the pistol out of the shoe box in the closet and challenging his brothers to a friendly game of Russian Roulette.

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    that happened in an an apartment (someone's living quarters) and not in the quad.
    It was a college party and, as such, more relevant than your Arizona reference.

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    Serious question: Do they actually make you go through training, and if so, what training?

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    Oh, and Oh Gee!!!, I hope you followed the second link on the Appalachian School of Law, there are a few examples, in that article, where mass murderers were stopped - either on school grounds or at school functions - by armed resistance.

    Another aspect of that article mentions how the media downplays this aspect of many of the stories.

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    drunk and/or stressed and/or neurotic teenagers packing heat, a sure-fire combination for student safety.
    These people get CHLs?

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    No, but considering the demographics and the lifestyle of most of the people on campus I can understand some trepidation over this.

    I am going to guess that there will be more incidents involving shootings on campus than the shooting rampage we had 40 years ago with this in force.

    I may be wrong but I just know too well what college kids get like.
    Do irresponsible college students get CHLs?

    The average crime rate of a CHL holder is far lower than the average person. When people say they're worried about a CHL holder being allowed to carry somewhere will raise the incidence of crime its usually spoken out of ignorance.

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    well, if every campus gunman ran into an off-duty sheriff's deputy, police officer, and marine on his way from killing from a professor, they'd all be similarly situated

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    Serious question: Do they actually make you go through training, and if so, what training?
    Yes.

    Instruction covers use of deadly force, dispute resolution, concealed handgun law, gun safety and storage, selection of a concealed carry gun, legislative changes, handgun accuracy training, and the handgun proficiency test.

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    Serious question: Do they actually make you go through training, and if so, what training?
    There is a large amount of paperwork to fill out, a background check that is extensive, and training on using a firearm.

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    well, if every campus gunman ran into an off-duty sheriff's deputy, police officer, and marine on his way from killing from a professor, they'd all be similarly situated
    Both men were students. I guess I don't get your point.

    At one of the other incidents, it was an assistant principal.

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    Yes.

    Instruction covers use of deadly force, dispute resolution, concealed handgun law, gun safety and storage, selection of a concealed carry gun, legislative changes, handgun accuracy training, and the handgun proficiency test.
    Well at least they have something, but everyone driving on their own has passed (hopefully) a test, and that doesn't exactly make me feel safe when I'm on the road.

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