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    Abe Lincoln, NlGGA Kyle Orton's Avatar
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    oh you! I'm not gonna let you get to me cause words can't bring me down



    I'm rubber you're glue , whatever you say bounces off me and stick onto you

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    um wait

    Americans cry and about waterboarding and torture to arab terrorists, we have to treat them humanely and give them great living conditions, but you guys have no problem advocating waving human rights trials and just executing these people.
    The solution for the captured pirates is pretty simple to me. A quick, straightforward and fair trial, followed by a no-brainer outcome.

    As I said in the OP, giving anybody a fair trial is essential.

    In this case I would imagine the evidence is pretty overwhelming. If ever there was an "open and shut" case, this is it.

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    oh, no! rich sailing enthusiasts that hand out bibles! what will the world do without them?

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    so we take care of these pirates for 33 years, and let them be a drain on the country. Just kill 'em.
    I would note that young man was not involved in the cold-blooded murder of 4 captives.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maersk_Alabama_hijacking

    I can imagine that difference could mean an outcome just a *bit* different.

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    oh, no! rich sailing enthusiasts that hand out bibles! what will the world do without them?
    Deaths of Americans at hands of Somali pirates a troubling escalation in violence, experts say

    The killing of four Americans in a yacht hijacked by Somali pirates puzzled some experts, who say it's rare for pirates to kill their hostages.

    About 50,000 vessels pass through the area each year. Roughly 200 are attacked by pirates, said Roger Hawkes, director of corporate security for Houston-based Global Industries, a marine engineering and construction company. Hawkes notes that piracy in the area is a crude criminal enterprise.

    “They are just out to make money,” he said. “The hostages have always been their lifeline and their money line too.”

    As a result, Hawkes said, despite the scourge, he could not think of a single incident in which pirates were accused of directly killing a hostage, though several hostages have died over the years when they suffered heart attacks and could not reach a hospital. The vast majority of incidents do not end with a guns-blaring rescue or with harm to those being held, but with a quiet exchange of money for hostages.

    “This is a complete game-changer if they actually did arbitrarily execute them,” Hawkes said.

    Jean and Scott Adam, of Southern California, and Phyllis Macay and Robert Riggle, of Seattle, were killed on the Adams' yacht several days after it was hijacked off the coast of Oman.

    Accounts of the killings varied Tuesday and could take some time to sort out.

    The Adams were headed toward the Red Sea and then the Greek islands on Friday when, according to U.S. military officials, pirates boarded the Quest off the coast of Oman.

    Almost immediately, U.S. naval vessels began shadowing the yacht, negotiating for the Americans' release as the vessels made their way south toward Somalia, said Lt. Col. Mike Lawhorn, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, part of an international coalition of anti-piracy operations in the Indian Ocean.


    There were signs of dissent among the pirates. On Monday, two of them abandoned the yacht and came aboard the guided-missile destroyer Sterett.

    Then, on Tuesday morning, the pirates fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the Sterett, which missed, according to the U.S. military. As some pirates came on deck with hands raised, as if trying to surrender, a team of 15 Navy SEALs boarded the yacht amid small-arms fire. President Obama had authorized the use of force if the military determined that the hostages' lives were in imminent danger, the White House said.

    "The intent always had been that this would be a negotiated process and not ever go into a point where we actually had gunfire," said Vice Adm. Mark Fox, commander of U.S. naval forces in the region.

    When the U.S. forces boarded the yacht, they found two of the pirates already dead; military forces killed two others, one with a gun and one with a knife. All four hostages already had been shot. Some were still alive and given medical treatment, but all died, U.S. officials said. Their bodies were taken aboard the aircraft carrier Enterprise and were expected to be taken to the United States.
    The pirates offered a different account.

    Liban Muse, a member of the pirate group involved in the incident, told The Times in a telephone interview from the Somali coast that the U.S. military fired first.

    "We had no intention of killing the hostages until the Americans began shooting at us," Muse said. "Our preference is only to take ships and ransom money, not to kill. But governments are targeting and killing our people."

    The case has raised questions about what private yachters can do to improve security.

    The high cost of on-board security -- prices often start at $4,000 per day -- is all but prohibitive for most private boaters. Many of them band together in convoys or “rallies.” The Adams had joined a rally but split off three days before their capture. The convoys can make military protection simpler, but with pirates now operating in such a massive expanse of water, it can be hard to guarantee safety, experts said.

    -- Scott Gold

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    Why take hostages? Put them back on their own boat, tie them down, blow them the up.

    Are destroyers not shooting on sight?? Just sink em all. What's the big deal?
    The problem is figuring out who to shoot at. You are talking about a section of the ocean that sees upwards of 50,000 ships per year, and a lot of fisherman.

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    Tbh I'm one of the biggest mookie crew haters on this site, but @ how much 4cc and his brother piss off this cubansucks head.
    somebody can't recognize sarcasm


    "oh you! I'm not gonna let you get to me cause words can't bring me down"


    that TOTALLY sounds like I'm being serious I guess

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    somebody can't recognize sarcasm


    "oh you! I'm not gonna let you get to me cause words can't bring me down"


    that TOTALLY sounds like I'm being serious I guess

    you never answered my question

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    Ok, RIP, this is horrible



    But WTF was that yacht doing in that area ??????

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    Comedy central is so silly they replayed the somali pirate episode last night.

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    um wait

    Americans cry and about waterboarding and torture to arab terrorists, we have to treat them humanely and give them great living conditions, but you guys have no problem advocating waving human rights trials and just executing these people.
    Anyone who kills someone deserves to die themselves. Period.

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    Go ahead and give the Darwin award to these people, I mean they knew the risk that was involved in sailing these waters and they ended up paying for it with their lives.

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    I somehow have slightly less sympathy towards said couple...
    Like I said, your M.O.


    As everyone else has already said - kill them all. No trial.

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    Like I said, your M.O.


    As everyone else has already said - kill them all. No trial.
    I disagree, though as I said earlier that I have no problem with hanging them.

    We have a lot to lose by NOT giving them a trial, and nothing to lose if we do.

    Simply executing people, no matter how deserving they might be, goes against some pretty fundamental principles that we all agree on, and makes us look like bloodthirsty jackasses, who are ready to go back on the values we say we believe in when it suits us.

    The evidence here is pretty overwhelming. They were caught in the act, and none of them can really mount much of a defense. A guilty verdict is almost 100% certain by anybody's analysis.

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