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    now before you guys start laying in on me, just know that I am a die hard spurs fan and in no way am trying to say the spurs suck or are stupid, but they certainly have not improved the teams chances for a championship by sitting idle while free agents/ trades happen/happened across the league. This rant is about how we need a big badly and didn't do about it.

    First off, for the past 12 years SIZE in the front court has helped tremendously to win championships.
    Spurs- duncan, robinson, nazr, rasho, elson, fabricio, horry
    Lakers- shaq, horry, pau, bynum, odom, vlad, turiaf, walker
    Heat- shaq, zo, haslem, doleac, walker
    Celtics- KG, perkins, pj brown, leon powe, pollard, glen davis, scalabrine

    Now from this list you can see that there is ONE main presence down low (duncan, shaq, kg, pau) and the rest are role players/ rebounders with size and length to help protect the paint.

    ..This is all common knowledge to us because you always here ppl talk about size and defense. We all know how important size is, as do the nba analyst we see on tv. Right now the consensus is that the Spurs are too small and they're right. They know it, we know it, the spurs FO knows it. You can tell that we (us spurs fans) know this because even though the spurs have the best record in the league and were on pace to set a franchise record in wins, not a single person on this board would brag about it, even hardly mention it. Even the head coach of our team would repeatedly state we weren't the best team in the league and the record was meaningless. Why? because deep down we, and them (spurs FO), know that in order to win the ship we have to go through either dallas, la, boston, orlando, or miami..all teams that are experienced, talented, REBOUND, and are big. The other 25 teams are non existent really. Size wise against those other top tier teams, we're at the bottom of the barrel. Our joint hatred toward bonner, paired with blair's undersized frame..add in dice's old age and the 7 footer that continues to rot on the bench and our frontcourt is easily our achilles heal and for the past decade, strong front courts have won championships. Regardless of how great kobe was, he needed pau to win. Boston was average in the east until they got KG. Miami won when they traded for shaq, and we won by starting any 7ft avg joe next to Timmy. Having BIGS is a must right now and has been since mj retired. Reality should have set in for everyone when the Phoenix ing Suns SWEPT us last year.

    Back to the FO, I understand when you have the best record in the league you have no reason to trade anyone and break up your roster. I 100% agree with that. But that doesn't mean you couldn't do ground work in the offseasons/drafts or even trade away players who rarely contribute to wins. The past two offseasons, FA's, drafts and mid season trades were flooded with big men who could have bolstered our front court... Tyson Chandler, Stromile Swift, Nazr, Al Jefferson, Turiaf, Kaman, Camby, Landry, Dampier, Zeke, Shaq, Jermaine Oneal, Haslem, Favors, Gortat, DeAndre Jordan, Haywood, Diop, Okafor, Dalembert, Villanueva..the list goes on. Before some of you start talking about bball IQ, and defensive "systems", that's all bull . We won ships with rasho, nazr, fab and elson...the system for Centers/forwards besides duncan is just REBOUND. ...now we're stuck with pops man crush Bonner, 6'8 blair, and a young 7 footer on the bench who pop refuses to play because he doesn't know the system yet. YOU pop, Duncans on his last years and we got swept by phx last year because we had no presence in the paint. I know the future is bright with all our youth and young talent and offense but once duncan is gone and kobe is done, all the powerhouses will be out east. We got 2 maybe 3 years left to make a real run. Get us a ing BIG!!!!

    Yes we have the skills and talent to compete with anybody but the reality is, after 82 regular season games...players get tired and hurt. Then the 7 games series start where your opponent knows you like the back of their hand and size/physicality starts to play a MAJOR role. Maybe its just me but I don't see this team winning a championship this year with this current roster. I see the San Antonio Suns, too small and offensive oriented.

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    lol

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    Never start a thread again please.

    Thanks.

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    If Splitter starts playing decently, we will have plenty of size.

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    ..This is all common knowledge to us..

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    If Splitter starts playing decently, we will have plenty of size.
    sorry bro. That won't happen this season. Splitter won't see any minutes in the playoffs unless an injury.

    I agree another bigman would help immensely. We are small. At the same time, we are not the Suns, get real.

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    I did not see a single trade example in all that. Everyone can get better, the problem is that to do so, you need to give up something. The Spurs are not holding path because they don't want to get better, they are holding path because any trade available does not make them better. It would have to be an obvious, sure thing for them to pull the trigger and there is only so many Kahn's and Wallace's out there.

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    This year is the last chance for a le run ... seeing the problems new players have to adapt to the Spurs system midseason trades will help nothing to improve the team. A healthy Splitter and Anderson should help enough in the playoffs where the rotations shorten anyway ...

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    But now Im a big G ... egtonecity's Avatar
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    blah blah blah, we need a big, blah blah blah ... pretty much sums all that up.

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    I did not see a single trade example in all that. Everyone can get better, the problem is that to do so, you need to give up something. The Spurs are not holding path because they don't want to get better, they are holding path because any trade available does not make them better. It would have to be an obvious, sure thing for them to pull the trigger and there is only so many Kahn's and Wallace's out there.

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    Awesome, I needed a good laugh today.

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    The past two offseasons, FA's, drafts and mid season trades were flooded with big men who could have bolstered our front court... Tyson Chandler, Stromile Swift,
    ...........and right about here is where any chance you had at credibility went out the window.

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    I did not see a single trade example in all that. Everyone can get better, the problem is that to do so, you need to give up something. The Spurs are not holding path because they don't want to get better, they are holding path because any trade available does not make them better. It would have to be an obvious, sure thing for them to pull the trigger and there is only so many Kahn's and Wallace's out there.
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4s9rxdj

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    4.7/10 on the troll job scale

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    I heard we've got this new guy, Tango Splinter...

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    Darko in a Spurs uni would be sick tbh.

    Wouldnt give up TP though. Id offer Anderson, Booner, and a pick maybe.

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    Onozomygod !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    4.7/10 on the troll job scale
    my bad guys, I seriously meant to put H Warrick...I have always confused the two. My mistake

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    my bad guys, I seriously meant to put H Warrick...I have always confused the two. My mistake
    Are you sure you didn't mean Marcus Fizer?

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=4nqpnp6

    I would do this, but only if we knew we could get Dice back. Send a draft pick with it obviously, they're not just going to trade Quinn for him. It's not going to happen. But in a perfect world.

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    I give gregzilla an A for effort!

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    Are you sure you didn't mean Marcus Fizer?
    or Marcus Haislip?

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    Are you sure you didn't mean Marcus Fizer?
    He meant Cherokee Parks.

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