And because size always = ships, ladies and germs:
I was working on the Riverwalk at the time we drafted this dude and I saw him getting our of a car at the Marriott.. his mullet was bigger that I was..And because size always = ships, ladies and germs:
best record in the NBA and some still continue to complain.
I am not paid to think of trade scenarios that would work and play with salary cap numbers, that's RC's job. My point is the Spurs have needed an upgrade in the front court for several years especially with duncan getting older and they did nothing about. I just gave a list of more than 10 guys who are all better than Rasho, Fab, and Elson. All those guys were up for grabs via trade or free agency and they did nothing. Now it's gonna cost us a chance at a ship and when duncan retires in 2 yrs were back to being low seeds in the west. I would rather sit in the #5-6 seed area with a strong front court and same key pieces (duncan, manu, tp) than #1 w/o a low post presence. We ARE the new phoenix suns guys.. compared to the top tier teams. Spurs #1 offensively, last defensively.
Knock one of my fellow new guys all you want but there's some truth to what he's saying. The Spurs aren't going to win it all unless they can manage to thrive with 2 bigs playing on the court - at the same time - for a significant amount of time or in certain matchups and situations.
They're still not equipped to defend good small-ball teams and the elites' big game is better than the Spurs. Where the Spurs do have an advantage, it's in what some would call fool's gold areas for playoff success.
They're not a championship caliber defensive team. They're not proficient enough in the open court game to exploit the slower half court teams at the elite level in a 7 game series.
Not sure there's much they could have done or still could do to bolster their chances realistically, but that doesn't change the fact that they're seriously flawed for a contender...
i find your lack of faith disturbing...
I feel you man but every team would like better depth...
I didn't realize the Spurs had picked up the ball since dropping it on the Scola trade. Hmmm, go figure.
It's nice to want things.
What contender isnt flawed? You're cutting on the spurs size when they have 5 bigs that can be used for different situations... What about the c's? they're old, battlin injuries, struggle to score if jumpers aint fallin ... the heatles dont have any legit bigs unless they flip mike miller for something... the bulls start in Keith Bogans ... the lakers have size but their backcourt is weak as (minus Kobe, obviously), no depth either... not saying i wouldnt love to flip spurs trash for some1 like Nene but I'm also not sitting here with my hand in my vagina crying about what the spurs could have done...
Again, it's not that they are not willing to improve. There are very few options that make the team better and most, if not all of them, are not really available either because of cost, cap numbers, other team willing to accept, players actually being better than what the Spurs have.
Tyson Chandler (too expensive, injury prone, did not have the assets to trade for him)
Stromile Swift
Nazr (not an upgrade over ANY of our current bigs)
Al Jefferson (see Chandler)
Turiaf (see Nazr)
Kaman (see Chandler)
Camby (see Chandler)
Landry (see Chandler)
Dampier (see Chandler AND Nazr)
Zeke (Dikembe? Moving on...)
Shaq (see Chandler and at this point in his career see Nazr)
Jermaine Oneal (see Shaq)
Haslem (see Chandler)
Favors (no assets that would interest them)
Gortat (see Chandler)
DeAndre Jordan (see Favors AND Nazr)
Haywood (see Dampier)
Diop (Maybe... but who would you give up for?)
Okafor (see Chandler)
Dalembert (see Diop)
Villanueva (see Dampier)
OUt of your whole list, you can only really consider a few as viable, possible trades that both teams wouldn't slam the phone right away.
Spurs sit 6th in defense efficiency and despite having Duncan playing about 26 minutes a game who by the way is blocking despite that just about as many a game as D. Howard and is actually blocking more on a 40 minute basis.
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/tea...ff/order/false
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...1/seasontype/2
The sky is falling! There are actually two and only two teams playing BOTH consistently better defense and have size = Bulls and Boston and both of those teams also have flaws.
Spurs are fine. Size is good sure, but quality is a completely different story. McDyess, Duncan are proven in the playoffs. I wouldn't worry too much about them. Bonner actually has been playing better defense. Blair despite his size is doing a solid job. If Blair is overmatched, Pop changes his rotation or defensive assignment. You could easily see this change based on the last game with the Bulls. Spurs lost that game, but it wasn't due to size. It was due to a career night by Rose (He is a ing stud btw). The man killed the Spurs with his jumper, not his inside game.
Everyone seems to say that the pace changes in the playoffs. They are mostly right, but what people overlook is that if a player is fast, there is nothing you can do about it. A faster player will still get from point A to point B faster than a slower one. This includes half court sets. Combine this with a perimeter that can score from anywhere on the court (even the bench can do this) and get there faster than most defenses and you have a great advantage.
Bottom line, Spurs are fine. If they needed a trade as badly as you say they do, they would have done it already. I don't think you know more than the FO, otherwise you would be working for them and not posting on an internet forum.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke, mothertrucker.
This. Having a random 7ft on Gasol would not help much
I don't have a vagina. Having said that, I'd probably have my hand in it if I did. Not sure about the crying, it'd have to be some really good .
The Spurs are a contender. Yes, they're not the only team flawed. But to me Boston is clearly a better and more sound team than the Spurs, all things being equal, the Heat have the ability to kill the Spurs on the wings, limit Parker and not get murdered in the frontcourt and the Bulls may be the most sound team there is in the league. People are finally starting to take notice but they can defend with the best, their frontcourt is unreal if they get Noah back healthy, and they've got a legit MVP candidate at the reins - God help the league if they acquire a 2.
I'm not gonna gloss over the 2-time defending champs because of a seeming disinterest at this stage of the game. When it comes down to it, they've still got the best player of the two teams - still one of the Top 2-3 players in the league - and they've got the size and interior game to succeed at a higher percentage than the Spurs do from the outside. They've still got the better real estate. And I'm not sleeping on the Mavs. They've got a lot of the really good championship ingredients trending their way - star play, defense and success against a great schedule.
All of those teams have better championship indicators for me than the Spurs. All things being equal, I think Boston beats the Spurs for sure and I may favor 1-2 others.
I don't see the Spurs winning the le unless they receive a healthy amount good fortune via matchup or others' misfortune (i.e., injuries). But happens... and sometimes it benefits the team you pull for.
Now THIS I agree with.
The Bulls are scary, real talk. DRose is a beast and agreed, if they land a 2, then they are super stacked.
Definitely cant sleep on Mavs, Lakeshow, or Spurs in the west. My only point was that everyone can nitpick that their team needs this and that but as things are currently constructed, spurs got a chance.
look back at the time when the Spurs finally got Tiago to sign and tell me it wasn't a big deal. and if you've been following the spurs for some time, you would know they don't do anything drastic mid-season. also, i'd like you to point out who doesn't contribute to a win and tell me if they can be traded for anyone of worth.Back to the FO, I understand when you have the best record in the league you have no reason to trade anyone and break up your roster. I 100% agree with that. But that doesn't mean you couldn't do ground work in the offseasons/drafts or even trade away players who rarely contribute to wins
I dont' think we need a trade.. but how can you say we dropped the ball when the deadline has not even passed?
Bill Curley, ladies and gents.
Someone's balls dropped?
Congrats!
I was waiting for the fresh prince theme song
I agree 100%
Many of us have been saying this all along. The regular season record is fools gold and the spus frontline will be exposed in the playoffs by bigger frontlines. Its a different game come playoff time.
The run is nearly over for the spurs as Duncan gets older and other teams are stockpiling up stars like the Knicks( don't be surprised when they add a star pg in the future) Boston, Miami and count the Lakers( as they always find a way to make big moves to add stars).
The mega teams in the big markets are starting to form with multible stars, as players dictate which teams they play for and the league is not against the forming of super teams in media markets. Thats exactly what they like. The spurs will be sitting on the outside.
The push for a le should be this year and adding another big is a must. Forget about counting on getting much from Splitter. Bonner is worthless in the playoffs as an interior presence and McDyess is an over the hill pf and won't come up big throughout the entire playoff run. Duncan will be left alone in the paint with little help other than an undersized Blair playing with all heart but getting outsized.
The front office sits on their hands doing nothing far too often when it comes to upgrading with trades.
You aren't paid to start crappy threads either, yet here we are.
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