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    I oppose democracy so I vote is one of a qoute.
    You do understand the difference between a democracy and a representative republic, right?

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    Facepalm all you want, but it's the truth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptians



    The Egyptians are not Arabs, and both they and the Arabs are aware of this fact. They are Arabic-speaking, and they are Muslim —indeed religion plays a greater part in their lives than it does in those either of the Syrians or the Iraqi. But the Egyptian, during the first thirty years of the [twentieth] century, was not aware of any particular bond with the Arab East...

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    You do understand the difference between a democracy and a representative republic, right?
    apparently not.

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    Is Egypt becoming a Representative Republic? Do you guys oppose that?

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    I'm starting to think there is something to this 2012 end of the world stuff.
    LoL...No doubt.

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    Facepalm all you want, but it's the truth.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptians
    Arab is a race.

    You can't be of a different race just because you don't identify with your origin.

    When you are conquered by Arabs in the 600's and have 1400 years of intermarriage and interbreeding... speak their language and practice their religion...

    What are you?

    They claim "egyptian" because of the amazing history that their country holds... but in reality... the closest thing to "egyptian" is probably "ethiopian"

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    Who said anything about a representative repubulic?

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    hey yoni, tell your dishwasher to do the job you wouldn't do.

    problem solved.

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    Who said anything about a representative repubulic?
    I'm with you on that one.

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    Is Egypt becoming a Representative Republic?
    Of course not. Those sand savages always it up.

    Do you guys oppose that?
    If they oppose our best interests.

    If SpursTalk got together and democratically voted to come rob your house and kill you, would you support our decision?

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    so, its already been determined that they're gonna come and rob our house and kill us?

    lol

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    I believe you have the right to vote with whoever you want, about whatever you want. Fortunately, the higher law governing our society would have you all locked up if you actually carried out the robbing and killing.

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    I believe you have the right to vote with whoever you want, about whatever you want. Fortunately, the higher law governing our society would have you all locked up if you actually carried out the robbing and killing.
    Ahhhhh....thus, you see the difference between a Democracy and a Cons utional Republic.

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    Who said anything about a representative repubulic?
    Nobody. That's kind of the problem with these threads that pit democracy against tyranny; they forget the sane alternative adopted by our founders.

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    I never suggested we were a pure democracy.

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    I never suggested we were a pure democracy.
    However, you were the one advocating Democracy.

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    As it applies to these discussions, clearly "democracy" is an umbrella under which all forms of government that are in anyway influenced by the people fall.

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    "sane alternative adopted by our founders."

    aka, white-only, land-owning, male-only Euro-Americans

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    However, you were the one advocating Democracy.
    I know you guys think you're being clever, but a representative republic IS a democracy.

    I advocate crows but not birds

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    The subject is Egypt. They have NO history or cultural heritage that suggests that the people, given a pure democracy, would choose a western model of representative government.

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    Nobody. That's kind of the problem with these threads that pit democracy against tyranny; they forget the sane alternative adopted by our founders.
    Who said anything about a pure democracy?

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    Democracy is not necessarily all goodness and light. Don't forget that Hitler was democratically elected.

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    I did specify American democracy. If we have differing opinions about what to call our system of government, fine, but I think the point I was making was clear.

    If you oppose Egyptian people influencing their government because it's not in your best interest, I have no reason to believe you would not oppose the idea of American people influencing our government if you felt it would negatively impact you.

    If you support tyranny abroad, why should I believe you wouldn't support it here?

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    I would oppose evil even if it was democratically elected.

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    @ bringing up Eygpt history as if British colonization and the Cold War don't have huge effects on it. No, its just because they're "sand savages", right CC?

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