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    I'm still waiting for any of these FO-criticizing posters to even consider giving an example of an available trade we could have done that would have actually make the team better AND MORE IMPORTANTLY that the other team would be willing to accept. Most players in these lists are not better than what we have right now or are not going to be given to us without losing so much players that we end up worse than we are now.

    And please, don't say it is not up to you to come up with those scenarios. Well, if you want to convince people that the FO "dropped the ball" then give a good example of it. Just one.

    To quote a good poster from some of these threads: Waiting...

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    I'm still waiting for any of these FO-criticizing posters to even consider giving an example of an available trade we could have done that would have actually make the team better AND MORE IMPORTANTLY that the other team would be willing to accept. Most players in these lists are not better than what we have right now or are not going to be given to us without losing so much players that we end up worse than we are now.

    And please, don't say it is not up to you to come up with those scenarios. Well, if you want to convince people that the FO "dropped the ball" then give a good example of it. Just one.

    To quote a good poster from some of these threads: Waiting...


    smh at you wanting me to use the ESPN "trade machine" to prove my point. Face it bro, we resigned bonner for what 5 yrs? Signed a 35 yr old pf, won't play our young 7 footer, and drafter blair who is good..but undersized. All of those guys except for maybe 3 will be an upgrade starting next to timmy just for length and rebounding. Every other big we have on our roster are bench players who we have to start because we have no other viable option.
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    I'm still waiting for any of these FO-criticizing posters to even consider giving an example of an available trade we could have done that would have actually make the team better AND MORE IMPORTANTLY that the other team would be willing to accept. Most players in these lists are not better than what we have right now or are not going to be given to us without losing so much players that we end up worse than we are now.
    The grass is always greener...

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    smh at you wanting me to use the ESPN "draft machine" to prove my point.
    Just make your case. Take Chandler, for example. Go back to this summer and look at the transaction between Dallas and Charlotte. Now look at the tradeable players on the Spurs roster at the time of the trade. Tell us how the Spurs could have bettered, or even matched, the offer made by Dallas.

    Real simple.

    We'll wait.

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    smh at you wanting me to use the ESPN "draft machine" to prove my point. Face it bro, we resigned bonner for what 5 yrs? Signed a 35 yr old pf, won't play our young 7 footer, and drafter blair who is good..but undersized. All of those guys except for maybe 3 will be an upgrade starting next to timmy just for length and rebounding. Every other big we have on our roster are bench players who we have to start because we have no other viable option.
    If you don't have one single example to urge you to make theses threads and make what now seem like hundreds of post, how are you so convinced they dropped the ball then? Waiting...

    Again, we get that you believe many of these players are better than what we have right now but we are asking you, to please give us one trade scenario where we get one of those players so we can evaluate if the FO "dropped the ball" or not.

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    Just make your case. Take Chandler, for example. Go back to this summer and look at the transaction between Dallas and Charlotte. Now look at the tradeable players on the Spurs roster at the time of the trade. Tell us how the Spurs could have bettered, or even matched, the offer made by Dallas.

    Real simple.

    We'll wait.
    without getting into salary caps and numbers..I'm sure the spurs DID inquire about bigs (like chandler) but probably refused to give up players that were NOT the big 3....Im sure okc would have much rather traded kristic for perk straight up but Boston wasn't gonna have that. They wanted their lottery pick greene too and Presti pulled the trigger. It's a gamble but hey, to him he's making his team better with size.


    I don't need specific examples but you know as well as I know, there were offers that would have worked financially but the spurs didn't want to risk anybody outside of tim tony and manu...everyone else (except rj) imo is/has been expendable.

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    without getting into salary caps and numbers..I'm sure the spurs DID inquire about bigs (like chandler) but probably refused to give up players that were NOT the big 3....Im sure okc would have much rather trade kristic for perk straight up but Boston wasn't gonna have that. They wanted their lotter pick greene and Presti pulled the trigger. It's a gamble but hey, to him he's making his team better with size.
    Didn't answer the question.

    How could the Spurs have made better offers, either with respect to Chandler or the OKC trades.

    I'll say it again. If you can't show how the Spurs could have bettered or matched the offers made in those deals, then no ball was dropped.

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    Assholes who write factless diatribes about the most successful front office in the NBA the past 15 years are assholes. You lead "asshole post of the year". For being an asshole.

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    I'm still waiting for any of these FO-criticizing posters to even consider giving an example of an available trade we could have done that would have actually make the team better AND MORE IMPORTANTLY that the other team would be willing to accept. Most players in these lists are not better than what we have right now or are not going to be given to us without losing so much players that we end up worse than we are now.

    And please, don't say it is not up to you to come up with those scenarios. Well, if you want to convince people that the FO "dropped the ball" then give a good example of it. Just one.

    To quote a good poster from some of these threads: Waiting...

    Its not their job to come up with that.


    Its just their job to mindlessly about nothing and flood the forum with bandwidth wasting BS.

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    Didn't answer the question.

    How could the Spurs have made better offers, either with respect to Chandler or the OKC trades.

    I'll say it again. If you can't show how the Spurs could have bettered or matched the offers made in those deals, then no ball was dropped.

    I think Fabbs has mutated into someone else Mel.


    Looks like were just hitting our heads against the wall with this .

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    I don't need specific examples but you know as well as I know, there were offers that would have worked financially but the spurs didn't want to risk anybody outside of tim tony and manu...everyone else (except rj) imo is/has been expendable.
    You might not need them but we sure as do. You really suck at this you know.

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    Assholes who write factless diatribes about the most successful front office in the NBA the past 15 years are assholes. You lead "asshole post of the year". For being an asshole.
    Sorry bro, in my eyes the spurs front office has only been successful 4 years. Take your soft ass, spurs loving, "go spurs go", fan fiesta azz outta this thread. Great organization, no dout.....best winning % of all sports teams the last decade...yea i know. But I just want another ship..that's it.

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    Sorry bro, in my eyes the spurs front office has only been successful 4 years. Take your soft ass, spurs loving, "go spurs go", fan fiesta azz outta this thread. Great organization, no dout.....best winning % of all sports teams the last decade...yea i know. But I just want another ship..that's it.
    Refocus.

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    Sorry bro, in my eyes the spurs front office has only been successful 4 years. Take your soft ass, spurs loving, "go spurs go", fan fiesta azz outta this thread. Great organization, no dout.....best winning % of all sports teams the last decade...yea i know. But I just want another ship..that's it.


    Your a fan post 99.

    People like you are ungrateful s who don't deserve to even walk in the goddamn arena.

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    Your a fan post 99.

    People like you are ungrateful s who don't deserve to even walk in the goddamn arena.
    You're too attached bro...it's entertainment, spurs make money off you..don't know you exist, and don't care about you. I respect them as an organization but it's just basketball and I watch as a fan because i get to talk to other people if my team beats their team. And guess what? It's not even MY team? And i don't even PLAY on that team...shocker!! You're obviously over the age of 40 so the "Best Franchise" le means more to you than it does to me. Good for you. I deserve to be in the arena because i'm a fan but at the moment I am not happy with the FO not getting a F/C next to timmy

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    The OP has a spiggot which he can turn on at any time and random, ridiculous, stupid phrases of partial fact and mindless fiction with a tinge of passion become sentences that just get strung together. It's pretty fascinating, makes me want to be a shrink.

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    some of you guys are such spurs STANS it's sickening..as fan's we're allowed to say what we want about our team or FO in this case..but if it's something negative all of you come out with "best franchise"..."best record"..."you don't belong in our arena" bull ...get a ing life. It's basketball

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    So this is what has come down to because you cannot give one example of why you think the way you do?

    If all you got was those phrases then you haven't been reading what we answer and above question.

    'night.

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    I didn't realize that it could be so hard to come up with a concrete example to support an argument. Over at least 2 threads covering at least 3 days, the arguments get more and more generic - it's a remarkable shift in the way that arguments tend to be made.

    Of course, I'm still waithg for proof that "haven't made a trade" = "hasn't tried to make a trade". Or a reason that the Spurs acquisitions of Kurt Thomas, Drew Gooden, Theo Ratliff, Antonio McDyess, Dejuan Blair, and Tiago Splitter just in the last 3-4 years are irrelevant to this discussion. If the point is that the Spurs have been unwilling to pursue even serviceable bigs, that list would seem to be a fairly inconvenient truth.

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    The issue isn't that the Spurs are small and the front office isn't trying to make the team bigger. The issue is, even if the Spurs acquire another big man, Popovich will not play him.
    Exactly!!!!! And the reason he wont play is because the so-called big most likely cant shoot a midrange jumper and create a little space for the big 3. Or if he can shoot, then the problem is defensively he is not mobile enough to guard Pf's since Tim doesnt have a shot.

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    guys let us all calm down....

    we can still remedy this....

    there are solutions

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    where the is Splitter anyway???

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    where the is Splitter anyway???
    The same place he has been since the start of season, NOT PLAYING!!!!

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    Sorry bro, in my eyes the spurs front office has only been successful 4 years. Take your soft ass, spurs loving, "go spurs go", fan fiesta azz outta this thread. Great organization, no dout.....best winning % of all sports teams the last decade...yea i know. But I just want another ship..that's it.
    Obvious sequ troll is obvious. You're too short and your posts are too long by their exact character count.

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