I patted myself on the back because OKC's general manager thinks the way I do and agrees with my assessment that size in the front court plays a major role in the playoffs. You want me to be specific with that trade but honestly I'm not trying to be. All i'm saying is MORE bigs have been moved around and we needed one badly...they've been moving for 3 years
That's not all you're saying. See the le of the thread. Now if the le were to read "I wish we had a better frontline", I wouldn't have posted in your thread.
You've made a positive assertion that the FO has failed. You should be able provide evidence in support of that assertion.
You haven't.
that's my whole point mel....In My Opinion, they failed aka dropped the ball for not acquiring a big while other teams made a combined 25 transactions with bigs (#taken from my list)...In My Opinion, those guys on the list would have been an upgrade in our front court but if you certainly don't think so then that's fine. If you think our current front line can get the job done then YOURE right and the FO did NOT drop the ball. I don't agree with that
Im still waiting for how they could've gotten these bigs.
with players on their roster, with matt bonners 40 million, with draft picks, etc..etc.. the same way all those other teams did it. What you're not getting is that there WERE proposals/options for the spurs..they just didn't pull the trigger. To them they were better off not giving up a key reserve or two...or better off not going over the tax...or whatever. The point is they didn't do it and I think it's gonna hurt them come playoff time.
So your assuming these teams want to make deals with the Spurs and want to take on Matt Bonner's contract is that it?
Wow.
A list of player transactions does not make your case. For starters, you must show that the Spurs had the assets to make a better offer for some of those players.
Wow again. I didn't say that some of the players on the list wouldn't be better than some of our current players. I've said over and over that you have failed to provide any evidence that the FO dropped the ball. All you've done is that the team is flawed. Every team in the NBA is flawed.
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Bonner got 11M guaranteed in this last contract. The Spurs used the Bird exception to sign him. If they didn't sign him, they couldn't take that 11M and spend it on a free agent. System doesn't work that way.
OP dropped the ball with this thread, tbh
OKC's top 3 bigmen: Ibaka, Perkins, and Mohammmed.
S.A's top 3 bigmen: Duncan, Blair, and McDyess. With Bonner also in the rotation, The Spurs have more front court depth and imo, a better overall front line than OKC. You've been ranting and raving like a little kid who was told to put back the candy bar at the grocery store, about the Spur's FO inability to get a bigman, while praising OKC's moves. OKC was in dire straits as far as desperately needing front court depth, while the Spurs, who could certainly use another bigman, they were nowhere near as desperate a situation as OKC was.
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Bonner got 11M guaranteed in this last contract. The Spurs used the Bird exception to sign him. If they didn't sign him, they couldn't take that 11M and spend it on a free agent. System doesn't work that way.
but but but but Boston made trades!!!!
Bro, with every player comes a number (salary)..right?...ANYBODY can get traded as long as the #'s match up right?....regardless of what i'm able to draw up, the spurs DID have the ability to get someone off that list (make the numbers work) but didn't take the risk. There are several ways a trade/transaction can happen as long as the numbers match up. So regardless, they didn't go after one and didn't want to give up their guys. We all know the spurs know they are undersized so they SURELY made calls about bigs. Since we didn't get any of them, i'm guessing it's because the spurs didn't want to do it on their end. Look at the list, I didn't put Dwight or Noah or Bynum or like that..I put avg to below avg 7 footers who other teams traded away or let go...You know gm's weren't gonna ask for any of the big 3 for those guys...so i'm assuming the spurs didn't want to let go of any reserves or youth to complete a deal.
A bunch of assumptions. Not a shred of evidence. Not even a single plausible scenario. Come on, you can come up with one plausible scenario, can't you?
Basically just ing.
Your thread fails, zilla.
Good night.
So you wanted the Spurs to make a trade, just for the sake of making a trade?
Tyson Chandler makes 12.7 M$/year
How do you match that if you keep the big 3 and RJ?
In your other trade you included Al Jefferson an expensive, undersized, all offense big.I didn't put Dwight or Noah or Bynum or like that..I put avg to below avg 7 footers who other teams traded away or let go...
Maybe you should start proposing a list of 3 or 4 bigs you think would fit with the Spurs. Because at this point you are basically listing every player over 6'8 in the NBA.
At this point you could tell us "Dwight Howard or Petro... we could trade for one of these"
And from your list
Is no better than Mahinmi let alone Splitter.HASHIM THABEET
here is this what you wanted..someone posted this on the "trade machine" here last night. I'm guessing the Trade Machine is what gets your attention.
Bonner, Dice, and Splitter for Rudy Fern and Marcus Camby..salaries work and we get a big..blah blah blah,"that's a dumb trade" "why would we do that" save it..I can draw up ANY stupid scenario to make the numbers work but the POINT is the spurs didn't do anything so it is ASSUMED they didn't want to give some players in return. IMO we should have made a move especially if our big 3 weren't asked for.
Finally!
Now, would BOTH sides be willing to do it?
Spurs after the trade
Tony-Hill
Manu-Neal-Anderson
RJ-Rudy
TD-Blair
Camby-??
mmm we are left with 3 bigs (when we are making the trade TO GET BIG!) so we would need something more or at least have a decent 4th ready from elsewhere if we want to pull the trigger. Otherwise is no go or we end up worse than we started.
Blazers (just the bigs)
LA, Oden, Pryz, Dice, Splitter, Bonner
mm according to you they now have our "problem" with Aldridge and a bunch of extra undersized, injured or useless bigs minus Rudy...
That's a no go on their part too.
Next sceneario please.
The guy i got this from also said Dice would be bought out and come back to us....regardless I just threw this out because it was "Specific" and that's all some of you guys wanted. What I'm saying is I can sit around all day and get a big or submit a trade that makes the numbers fit...but the reality is with the big's i've listed, GM's surely won't asking for tim,manu, or tp so it's SUGGESTED that the spurs FO didn't want to let go/go through with it. I guess what i'm saying is that I believe the Spurs for the most part are the ones to inquire and then don't go through with it because the other team is asking for more (possibly hill or blair or whatever)..I understand hill and blair are good and are great for our team..but I would trade away one of them for a 7 foot 7pts,7rebs a game starting F/C
WHY? Those numbers are trash. Blair dwarfs those numbers.
I don't know why...it's sickening how much I covet bigs. Don't get me wrong, i like blair..actually know blair personally..but I'd rather have a 7 footer next to tim altering shots and clogging lanes every single game than blair having so-so nights and then a breakout game..I just loved the 2 seven footers system that pop created and everyone copied and won championships with.
Yeah, you aren't alone. Here's the reality: Pop doesn't love that system. Welcome to 2006.
No, you don't.
With that, you proved you are an idiot whose whining is not worth reading.
Indeed.
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