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You don't expect me to believe that now do you...
God...
You are stupid.
I have probably had my TV tuned to the Fox news Channel for 10 minutes this year so far.
I listen to local radio, and use my TV for DVD's and BluRays.
You don't expect me to believe that now do you...
Believe what?
Do you remember how far into that 10 minute YouTube these quotes were?
More lies or at least lazy incompetence by corporate media:
Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin' s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.
How can that be? Because the "contributions" consist of money that employees chose to take as deferred wages – as pensions when they retire – rather than take immediately in cash. The same is true with the health care plan. If this were not so a serious crime would be taking place, the gift of public funds rather than payment for services.
Thus, state workers are not being asked to simply "contribute more" to Wisconsin' s retirement system (or as the argument goes, "pay their fair share" of retirement costs as do employees in Wisconsin' s private sector who still have pensions and health insurance). They are being asked to accept a cut in their salaries so that the state of Wisconsin can use the money to fill the hole left by tax cuts and reduced audits of corporations in Wisconsin.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/1500...nd_health-care
.. and chain e-mails.
Those are always the best source of information.
Idiot...
I didn't get that from emails.
He said that in Beaverton Oregon
I live in Oregon, not far from Beaverton.
It was all over the local news then.
uh huh.
And you just *happened* to know how many states there were in the OIC off the top of your head without being spoon-fed that information from some forwarded email.
Nice try.
Was that the ten minutes you were talking about?
A Christian man TELLING HUGE LIES, but that's what you do when you're a Repug
HUCKABEE: They may not want to say it. But the harsh reality is if they are union busting it is because the unions have broken the bank. And they’re putting them in a position where they can’t afford to continue to go on. They’re going to lay a bunch of people off. Public employee unions are different than private sector. Private sector unions have a right to exist and have actually provided some decent check and balance to jobs and businesses.
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/24/...nions-so-what/
Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-25-2011 at 02:58 AM.
Wisconsin Governor May Have Violated Labor Law in Koch Call
When Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker discussed strategies to lay off state employees for political purposes, to coordinate supposedly “independent” political expenditures to aid legislatures who support his budget repair bill and to place agent provocateurs on the streets of Madison in order to disrupt peaceful demonstrations, he committed what the former attorney general of Wisconsin says could turn out to be serious ethics, election law and labor violations
“There clearly are potential ethics violations, and there are potential election-law violations and there are a lot of what look to me like labor-law violations,” said Peg Lautenschlager, a Democrat who served as Wisconsin’s attorney general after serving for many years as a US Attorney. “I think that the ethics violations are something the [state] Government Accountability Board should look into because they are considerable. He is on tape talking with someone who he thinks is the funder of an independent political action committee to purchase advertising to benefit Republican legislators who are nervous about taking votes on legislation he sees as critical to his political success.”
http://www.thenation.com/print/blog/...-law-koch-call
The music is a bit much, but those teachers skipping out of their duty as educators and the kids joining in on an adult conversation have to go. I don't know where, or what they'll do when they get there, but they need to GTFO and make room for people that want to work and want to learn.
Yea, I said it, take those kids out of school and put them on a deserted island and see if their Ipad's and facebook apps are any help toward survival. Stupid kids.
YES, quit participating in a historic push back and get back to being passive sheeple while the Repugs continue their bestiality.
May these kids be marked for life with what it's like to participate in real democracy rather than get screwed for life by the VRWC.
8 Authoritarian Tactics Right-Wingers Have Used to Sabotage the Wisconsin Uprising
http://www.alternet.org/story/150046/
When conservatives seized townhall meetings, yelled racial insults at black lawmakers and threatened politicians who voted for health care, the right-wing celebrated their corporate-backed efforts as a populist uprising. And when teachers, police officers, firefighters and students took to Wisconsin's capitol in peaceful protest, the right-wing crusaders against government overreach have embraced creepy authoritarian tactics to shut down the demonstrations. Their actions serve as a much-needed reminder of how threatening unions are to corporate powers and how essential a weapon against the conservative agenda.
Here are eight creepy ways Gov. Walker, Republican lawmakers, Tea Party groups, and (of course) Fox and conservative pundits, have gone after Wisconsin's public workers and their supporters.
1. Threat of Military Force
2. Sabotage Protests
3. Holding Workers Hostage
4. Blocking Access to Pro-Union Website?
5. Police Sent to Intimidate Democrats
6. Propaganda/Lots of Lying
7. Shoot 'Em
8. The Chamber
Koch: Bring a baseball bat. That’s what I’d do.
Walker: I have one in my office; you’d be happy with that. I have a slugger with my name on it.
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/150046
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As one the text of the points says, can anybody imagine the police being used to break up tea bagger protests?
VRWC wins, expect other Repug states to follow.
As the mayor of Milwaukee said, stripping unions' bargaining rights was never mentioned in Walker's campaign, so where is his mandate to do it? The people got exactly what they didn't vote for.
Wisconsin Assembly Passes Bill Stripping Union Rights From Public Workers
MADISON, Wis. — (AP) The Wisconsin Assembly early Friday passed a bill that would strip most public workers of their collective bargaining rights – the first significant action on the new Republican governor's plan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...tml?view=print
WOOHOO! We on, everybody - we won!
lol @ those blumpkins saying this was gonna spiral toward victory like Egypt. union dues can suck a .
No, I googled it and found the snoops article and other information.
You're a real slimeball trying to make me a liar when I am telling the truth.
In the message that contained your second quote of me, I said "I used to watch Fox news quite a bit." In the first, I specified this year.
Please look up the word "context."
To misuse context makes you a lair in my book. Do you think you're superior when you are being intellectually dishonest?
Here's quote from union-buster St Ronnie, wonderful tax cutter of his own millionaire taxes:
"By outlawing Solidarity, a free trade organization to which an overwhelming majority of Polish workers and farmers belong, they have made it clear that they never had any intention of restoring one of the most elemental human rights—the right to belong to a free trade union."
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/25/...n-union-right/
Here's a quote from Eisenhower:
"Workers have a right to organize into unions and to bargain collectively with their employers. And a strong, free labor movement is an invigorating and necessary part of our industrial society."
"Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their choice."
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/149700
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Just goes to show how far the VRWC has dragged the Repugs and corporate-shielding SCOTUS to the EXTREME right. St Ronnie and Ike would be considered full-blown socialists today.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-25-2011 at 04:28 PM.
Fox Repug Propaganda entwork union-destroyers are AFL-CIO-affiliated union members
AFTRA confirmed to AlterNet Friday that O'Reilly, Limbaugh and Hannity were indeed union members.
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/150054
Do as we say, not as we do.
1. Unions Gave Us The Weekend: Even the ultra-conservative Mises Ins ute notes that the relatively labor-free 1870, the average workweek for most Americans was 61 hours — almost double what most Americans work now. Yet in the late nineteenth century and the twentieth century, labor unions engaged in massive strikes in order to demand shorter workweeks so that Americans could be home with their loved ones instead of constantly toiling for their employers with no leisure time. By 1937, these labor actions created enough political momentum to pass the Fair Labor Standards Act, which helped create a federal framework for a shorter workweek that included room for leisure time.
2. Unions Gave Us Fair Wages And Relative Income Equality: As ThinkProgress reported earlier in the week, the relative decline of unions over the past 35 years has mirrored a decline in the middle class’s share of national income. It is also true that at the time when most Americans belonged to a union — a period of time between the 1940′s and 1950′s — income inequality in the U.S. was at its lowest point in the history of the country.
3. Unions Helped End Child Labor: “Union organizing and child labor reform were often intertwined” in U.S. history, with organization’s like the “National Consumers’ League” and the National Child Labor Committee” working together in the early 20th century to ban child labor. The very first American Federation of Labor (AFL) national convention passed “a resolution calling on states to ban children under 14 from all gainful employment” in 1881, and soon after states across the country adopted similar recommendations, leading up to the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act which regulated child labor on the federal level for the first time.
4. Unions Won Widespread Employer-Based Health Coverage: “The rise of unions in the 1930′s and 1940′s led to the first great expansion of health care” for all Americans, as labor unions banded workers together to negotiate for health coverage plans from employers. In 1942, “the US set up a National War Labor Board. It had the power to set a cap on all wage increases. But it let employers cir vent the cap by offering “fringe benefits” – notably, health insurance.” By 1950, “half of all companies with fewer than 250 workers and two-thirds of all companies with more than 250 workers offered health insurance of one kind or another.”
5. Unions Spearheaded The Fight For The Family And Medical Leave Act: Labor unions like the AFL-CIO federation led the fight for this 1993 law, which “requires state agencies and private employers with more than 50 employees to provide up to 12 weeks of job-protected unpaid leave annually for workers to care for a newborn, newly adopted child, seriously ill family member or for the worker’s own illness.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/05/...things-unions/
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Compare with
1. Repugs proposing to permit child labor.
2. Repugs/VRWC union busting.
3. Repugs targeting destruction of SocSec (hand pensions to Wall St crooks)
3. Repugs upgrading 1000s of hourly to salaried to bust their overtime.
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/23/news...time/index.htm
The sons-of- es Repugs are undeniably anti-Human-American for the enrichment of Corporate-Americans. The Repugs' brilliance is duping the Have-Nots into voting against themselves and for the Haves.
Rick Scott Prosposes Cutting Annual Teacher Pay By $2,335 To Fund Corporate And Property Tax Breaks
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/03/07/...t-teacher-pay/
I can't believe I missed this..
irony alert..
Wisconsin State Senate Republicans Took Hundreds Of Thousands In Government Farm Subsidies
At least three of the Wisconsin state Senate Republicans currently demanding that public workers sacrifice benefits, wages and even collective bargaining rights for the sake of the budget have applied for and received hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal farm subsidies, a Huffington Post review of state and federal records shows.
From 1995 through 2009, state Sens. Luther Olsen, Dale Schultz and Sheila Harsdorf all had stakes in farms that received between them more than $300,000 in taxpayer funds.
Those federal appropriations had no direct impact on the state’s current budget woes, but the cash spent on those subsidies, which went to support a range of functions -- from soybean production to small hog operations -- could have been used elsewhere, perhaps even in Wisconsin. More than that, critics say, it muddles the notion, pushed by these lawmakers and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), that only they are serious about reining in an overextended, overspent government.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...tml?view=print
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yes, yes, "everybody does it" but only the Repugs are busting taxpaying union members
John Doe "kitchen sink" subpoenas chasing dark money shenanigans, or suppressing legitimate political speech?
(hint: in the real world, the two are not mutually exclusive. )
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...q93nXk.twitter
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...55953286552832
from the standpoint of the losers, legal process is a swindle ipso facto
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