Out of Wisconsin, a lesson in leadership for Obama

[boutons_deux]

unions didn't cause ANY fiscal crisis, specifically, the disastrous drop in local/state/federal taxes caused by the Bankster's Great Depression.

But WC and Yoni and Jack NEVER blame the criminal financial sector as the ROOT CAUSE.

[coyotes_geek]

Unions are for the tax payer.

Wrong. Unions are for the union members. Not the taxpayers.

[Wild Cobra]

unions didn't cause ANY fiscal crisis, specifically, the disastrous drop in local/state/federal taxes caused by the Bankster's Great Depression.

But WC and Yoni and Jack NEVER blame the criminal financial sector as the ROOT CAUSE.

Have you ever looked at how much future debt there is for public employee retirement plans? Some states have really ed up systems. My state is really starting to hurt now, but the future is looking real bleak. 8% guaranteed investment rate for PERS. Show me a 401k, 403b, etc. that does the same thing.

Who makes up the uninvested difference?

Taxpayers.

[boutons_deux]

JFC, union members are taxpayers.

There is strong correlation between the stagnation of real household income since 1980 and the official war on employees started by St Ronnie AND the fantastic rise in avg executive pay to avg employee pay, which up to 300x and more.

So the VRWC busting unions is really about the VRWC ing all employees.

[Wild Cobra]

JFC, union members are taxpayers.

Yes, union members pay taxes, but their jobs are not supported by just the tax dollars the government gets from them. We all pay for their benefits, and they often do get better than the typical tax payer gets.

[ChumpDumper]

So did Walker also want to take the bargaining rights away from the police and firefighter unions in Wisconsin?

Let me know.

[George Gervin's Afro]

So did Walker also want to take the bargaining rights away from the police and firefighter unions in Wisconsin?

Let me know.

nah, it would have been bad pr.. it's in vougue now to attack teachers..