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    Does Perkins trade to OKC affect our chances, of making it to the finals? The thinking is with the trade the west has become a 3 team race between , Spurs , LA and OKC. If the playoffs started today we would meet OKC in the second round. Beating OKC then LA in the playoffs is a tough road to go through. Some say we now are at a size dissadvantage to OKC, what was once a disadvantage to only LA , is now the same situation for OKC . If OKC and LA could only beat up on each other before meeting us that would be great, but as the standings , stand now i don't see OKC catching Dallas

    What do you guys think ?

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    Perkins is easily one of the best post defenders in the league, although his offense leaves something to be desired. Unfortunately this means that instead of potentially breezing through 2 playoff series, it will probably just be the first round. Spurs will have to work for it from the WCSF onward, but I think they're up to task.

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    We'll still beat OKC with him. Where it will really help is that Boston won't reach the Finals without him, or if they do they will be much easier to beat.

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    He does give OKC a huge boost to their interior defense, something they needed bigtime. We'd still take that series in 6 games, though.

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    They will be a tougher out, but I don't think it changes things too much. I think it will take a while for them to really come together. Maybe if the trade happened earlier in the season, it would have had a bigger impact.

    By the way, I am not a Dallas fan by any means, but you have to put them into the equation. Tbh...I'd still put them a head of OKC.

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    They will be a tougher out, but I don't think it changes things too much. I think it will take a while for them to really come together. Maybe if the trade happened earlier in the season, it would have had a bigger impact.

    By the way, I am not a Dallas fan by any means, but you have to put them into the equation. Tbh...I'd still put them a head of OKC.
    Oh, yeah...the Mavs are clearly better than the Thunder. I actually worry more about the Mavs than the Lakers in the playoffs.

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    Perkins is easily one of the best post defenders in the league, although his offense leaves something to be desired. Unfortunately this means that instead of potentially breezing through 2 playoff series, it will probably just be the first round. Spurs will have to work for it from the WCSF onward, but I think they're up to task.
    Agreed. The trade made OKC more of a matchup problem, but we will prevail.

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    This is a great trade for the spurs, sure Thunder got a little better, but they are still to young to go far in the playoffs. More importantly, the celtics ed themselves over, their frontline isn't as big anymore, thereby improving the spurs chances of beating them in the finals.

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    Yes. We better hope that the Thunder meet the Lakers and not us in the 2nd round because if we end up meeting OKC it's going to be an even tougher series now that they have both Perkins and Nazr inside, along with Ibaka. I could see the Spurs and Thunder going 7, ala the Hornets series from a couple years ago, just based on this move.

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    This is a great trade for the spurs, sure Thunder got a little better, but they are still to young to go far in the playoffs. More importantly, the celtics ed themselves over, their frontline isn't as big anymore, thereby improving the spurs chances of beating them in the finals.
    I wouldn't even say the Celtics are the favorites in the East anymore. Miami matches up great with them now...

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    I wouldn't even say the Celtics are the favorites in the East anymore. Miami matches up great with them now...
    Yup...and don't sleep on Chicago, either...

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    I wouldn't even say the Celtics are the favorites in the East anymore. Miami matches up great with them now...
    And C`s know that, so they made this trade.

    Perkins would help their defence, but he also makes Durate easier to double team.

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    He's currently sidelined with a strained left MCL. I don't know if it's going to be an issue for him, the rest of the season.

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    Jeff Green was a worse match-up for the Spurs than Perkins. They have better depth at center now if you factor in Nazr, but I think ultimately, Duncan/Blair > Perkins/Ibaka. Off the bench a combo of Mohammed/Collison is pretty tough inside but McDyess and Bonner will draw them out of the lane and make them work hard on defense and none of their post players are offensive threats.

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    getting perkins and nazr made thunder legitimate contenders. they now have interior presence in ibaka and perkins, 2 superstar scorers, and a deep young talented bench. it's going to be hard to match the thunder now.

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    Jeff Green was a worse match-up for the Spurs than Perkins. They have better depth at center now if you factor in Nazr, but I think ultimately, Duncan/Blair > Perkins/Ibaka. Off the bench a combo of Mohammed/Collison is pretty tough inside but McDyess and Bonner will draw them out of the lane and make them work pretty hard on defense and none of their post players are offensive threats.
    jeff green is a complete non factor against the spurs this year. in fact, he actually hurts the thunder. in 3 games against the spurs, he averaged 34 FG%, 27 3pt%, and 11 points.

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    jeff green is a complete non factor against the spurs this year. in fact, he actually hurts the thunder. in 3 games against the spurs, he averaged 34 FG%, 27 3pt%, and 11 points.
    11pts is nothing to sneeze at considering all the Spurs' games with the Thunder are close. Perkins is slow and won't make Duncan work very hard on defense. Green is a lot quicker and can draw defenders out of position by spreading the floor. The Thunder got tougher inside, but easier to defend imo.

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    11pts is nothing to sneeze at considering all the Spurs' games with the Thunder are close. Perkins is slow and won't make Duncan work very hard on defense. Green is a lot quicker and can draw defenders out of position by spreading the floor. The Thunder got tougher inside, but easier to defend imo.
    it is when you're shooting 34%.

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    perkins has won a le.
    green has won nothing.

    Serious upgrade for the Thunders.
    Presti's stuff.

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    it is when you're shooting 34%.
    It's good enough to not cheat on d. It's good enough to spread the floor and open the lane for Durant and Westbrook. He is also a good ball handler and can penetrate and create shots for higher percentage perimeter shooters. The Thunder thrive on open lane drives to the basket. They have to figure out what to do now that the lanes will be clogged.

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    I'm not saying it the Thunder didn't get better. I'm saying that it's not a match-up disadvantage for the Spurs . . . which is the point of the thread.

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    point of the thread is discussing whether or not the perkins trade affects the spurs chances, which it obviously does as perkins improves the team.

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    no.

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    This makes OKC a much more formidable opponent...don't be dense, people.

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    point of the thread is discussing whether or not the perkins trade affects the spurs chances, which it obviously does as perkins improves the team.
    Which is exactly what I did discuss. I can't help it if you can't comprehend what I said. You don't see how a team can improve overall and still not match-up better with certain teams?
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