How good are these Knicks?

[Kyle Orton]

You would have a point if they ever won anything... I don't dispute they're talented players, but there's no question they have zero basketball IQ.
But do tell us, is the the black jew angle that bothers you?

How did 0 bball IQ Amare skunk the classy Spurs last year then?

[Venti Quattro]

How did 0 bball IQ Amare skunk the classy Spurs last year then?

Dragic Nash Dudley Frye couldn't miss Richardson was like Jordan

[ElNono]

What? Happy to get theirs? Melo had his stats and money in Denver, he had "his" there too by your standard. The fact is, both Amare and Melo are two of the most prolific scorers in the league, combined together it's a defensive nightmare when anyone of them can blow up. There is not another pf or center I would take over Amare offensively. Honestly.

His top performance in Denver was a quick exit in the WCF... and that's after Billups came around.. otherwise he was a perennial 1st round exit.

[Kyle Orton]

They lost the conference finals largely because of how ty Billups played.

[ElNono]

How did 0 bball IQ Amare skunk the classy Spurs last year then?

Dragic Nash Dudley Frye couldn't miss Richardson was like Jordan

Lakerfan knows... especially after bukkaking all over Amare in the next round...

[ElNono]

They lost the conference finals largely because of how ty Billups played.

Because Lakers know who was the leader of that team and who they needed to shut down. They actually lasted longer than they should've thanks to JR smith shooting gangsta 3's.

[Kyle Orton]

lol the "Frye couldn't miss " argument. The classy ultra high bball IQ Spurs kept leaving Frye open.

[Kyle Orton]

Because Lakers know who was the leader of that team and who they needed to shut down.

That's why they had Derek Fisher guarding him?

[ElNono]

lol the "Frye couldn't miss " argument. The classy ultra high bball IQ Spurs kept leaving Frye open.

Spurs weren't that good defensively last year (debatable this year), and the Suns had better offense. Amare's basketball IQ or lack thereof has nothing to do with that though.

[Kyle Orton]

Spurs weren't that good defensively last year (debatable this year)

With their ultra-high bball IQ, how could they not be great on defense?

[ElNono]

That's why they had Derek Fisher guarding him?

Billups is not the quickest guy and Fish was a good defender when he could move his feet. We're talking 2 seasons ago.

[ElNono]

With their ultra-high bball IQ, how could they not be great on defense?

We didn't have the personnel + we had a couple of new guys in the system.
I'm surprised Amare and his ultra-high bball IQ couldn't get you past the Lakeshow though.

[JamStone]

Fisher was already a pylon 2 years ago.

[Nick Manning]

ElNono you are making no sense in this thread.

Calling Stat and Melo stat s because they aren't great defensive players is just plain ignorant. Both Melo and Stat led their respective teams to the WCF the last 2 years and they lost to a ing dynasty team...you can't really rag on them for not beating the Lakers

[Technique]

Honestly just stop. Stick to Kobe hating your material on Melo hating is rather subpar.

[Hooks]

The Knicks aren't very good, they won't make it past the 1st round.

[ElNono]

Calling Stat and Melo stat s because they aren't great defensive players is just plain ignorant.

Except that I didn't say that. Try again.

[ElNono]

Time will tell what happens. Right now they're basically the Suns from 3/4 seasons ago sitting in the East. Two superstars (Amare-Nash then, Amare-Melo now) and same coach.
Good role players around (Marion then, Billups now).

[Technique]

Time will tell what happens. Right now they're basically the Suns from 3/4 seasons ago sitting in the East. Two superstars (Amare-Nash then, Amare-Melo now) and same coach.
Good role players around (Marion then, Billups now).

Except that roster was at the Sun's peak.

The Knicks are just getting started.

[ElNono]

Except that roster was at the Sun's peak.
The Knicks are just getting started.

I don't know what the future CBA will look like, but under the current one, I don't think they can add any more over-the-top pieces. Although Miami did pull it off.

[Technique]

Chris Paul or Deron Williams.

Decisions decisions.

[Kyle Orton]

Time will tell what happens. Right now they're basically the Suns from 3/4 seasons ago sitting in the East. Two superstars (Amare-Nash then, Amare-Melo now) and same coach.
Good role players around (Marion then, Billups now).

The Suns never had a wing who could score in the halfcourt and close games the way Melo can.

[ElNono]

The Suns never had a wing who could score in the halfcourt and close games the way Melo can.

I agree with that.
That said, Nash was also offensively beasting around that era, which is when he won the MVPs. I didn't think that Suns team had a problem scoring. They just couldn't make stops when they needed them.

[thispego]

The lone two credible replies to my post fail to take into account the play of Billups.

I will bump this thread when, and if the Knicks go far.

It'll be because of Billups.

lol, you think you're the only one who knows about billups?

[Kyle Orton]

I agree with that.
That said, Nash was also offensively beasting around that era, which is when he won the MVPs. I didn't think that Suns team had a problem scoring. They just couldn't make stops when they needed them.

That Suns team did have a problem scoring late in games. Getting stops was a bigger problem, but the 2005-2007 Suns had a major problem with its 4th quarter offense.