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    Next thing I hear about extensions better be Denver giving Nene $60 mill.

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    Now they just gotta wait until Griffin goes home and they're set for some serious contending.

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    Ibaka is averaging 14.4 points per 40 minutes. Thats pretty solid for a fourth or fifth option which is what he's been the last two years. He also has solid mid range jump shot; he's shooting 44% on jumpers 16-23 feet from the basket while taking almost two a game, plus he can uncork some crazy dunks if he gets alone anywhere near the basket. He'll get a lot better too because he is still raw offensively in terms of having any go to moves either facing up or in the post. Because he's African though some people think he's a Thabeet level re with no offensive skills.
    I dont, i think he has solid potential a great athlete, with a good motor who has improved every year. Plus he is STILL young ...should be interesting OKC has a tough choice if they signed him to alonbgterm deal now and he improves at the same rate he will be a steal (Serge) but if they wait he may command much more ...

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    Coach_D_Antoni Coach D'Antoni



    When reporting on Kendrick Perkins I think it should be called a contract hyperextension.

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    Boston didn't lowball Perkins. They offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA.

    OKC still had space remaining under this year's salary cap and increased Perkins' 2010-11 salary from 4.4M to 6.7M. They were then able to use the higher figure as the basis for the extension. Boston didn't have the cap space to make the same maneuver.
    I don't believe that's true. However, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment.

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    I don't believe that's true. However, I'm too lazy to look it up at the moment.
    It's absolutely true.


    Perkins’ $4.4 million salary for this season was raised to $6.7 million, and the extension – with subsequent annual raises – was built off that.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...xtension030111
    Last edited by Mel_13; 03-01-2011 at 04:04 PM.

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    Coach_D_Antoni Coach D'Antoni



    When reporting on Kendrick Perkins I think it should be called a contract hyperextension.

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    Coach D Antoni with the goods.

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    It's absolutely true.


    Perkins’ $4.4 million salary for this season was raised to $6.7 million, and the extension – with subsequent annual raises – was built off that.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...xtension030111
    Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were saying that Boston "offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA." Clearly they did not.

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    Certain players' impact can be measured in statistical production. Other players' impact can be measured in contribution to ulative success. I think Perkins is the latter.

    The claims of overrated stem from a lack of production, which is fair, but defensively and on the boards, the impact of having a 7-footer who understands foot-work, angles, positioning, boxing-out and who has solid on-ball defense and is a good rebounder goes farther than can be measured through production alone. Perkins did a lot of dirty work that goes overlooked. Many times he defensed a play from simply being in a certain proximity. Many times another teammate may have capitalized on a rebound after Perk cleared the way.

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    Maybe I misunderstood your original post. I thought you were saying that Boston "offered him the maximum extension that they were allowed to offer under the CBA." Clearly they did not.

    That's exactly what I said, and clearly they did.

    4/22 was the maximum extension that Boston could offer. OKC was able offer more by using available cap space to bump up his current salary which then served as the base figure for the extension. Boston could not increase his current salary and had to base their extension offer on the lower figure.

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    That's exactly what I said, and clearly they did.

    4/22 was the maximum extension that Boston could offer. OKC was able offer more by using available cap space to bump up his current salary which then served as the base figure for the extension. Boston could not increase his current salary and had to base their extension offer on the lower figure.
    I don't think so. Boston had Perkins' Bird rights. That could sign him for whatever they wanted.

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    I don't think so. Boston had Perkins' Bird rights. That could sign him for whatever they wanted.
    Extension...not a new contract, thats the big difference

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    From the Boston Globe...

    http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._agonized.html

    Celtics president Danny Ainge said on WEEI he and coach Doc Rivers "agonized'' over trading Kendrick Perkins.

    Ainge is banking on the return of Shaquille and Jermaine O'Neal to the lineup and Jeff Green stabilizing the second unit for another championship run.

    Ainge beleived Perkins was expendable because of his pending free agency and the expected return of the O'Neals.

    “[Perkins] wasn’t interested in doing a contract extension,” Ainge said. “He wanted to test the market.” It was reported that the Perkins rejected a four-year $22 million offer from the team. Perkins was reportedly asking for $30 million over the same period.

    "It's tough to play the O'Neals and Perk at the same time," Ainge said. “Shaq has proven to be better with our starters. We beat all of the top teams without Kendrick.”

    Ainge said Jermaine "is coming along nicely" and Shaq should return in a week. "We feel good about our team."

    Ainge acknowledged the deal has brought some emotion from his players.
    “In time they will see the benefits for our team,'' he said.

    What the Celtics are getting in Green is a versatile, experienced 24-year-old from Georgetown.

    “He can play the four, three. He defends multiple positions. He can shoot the three-ball and post-up smaller guys,” Ainge said. “He has scoring, passing, intelligence, youth, energy all in one package.”

    “We shed some tears today,” Ainge said after he told Perkins of his trade to Oklahoma City. “He’s a good kid and is going to a great situation.”

    Today’s transactions left the Celtics with three open roster spots. Ainge said the team will aggressively fill those positions.

    “We will be ready to pounce on players who will be bought out,” said Ainge, who is looking for help from outside and wing players, as well as a defender. He says guard is the least of his concerns.

    “We may fill all three or just two depending on who we get,” Ainge said.


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    The Celtics low-balled him.

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    Extension...not a new contract, thats the big difference
    There is no difference.

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    There is no difference.
    There is. Because Perkins already got an extension from his rookie contract and it wasn't a max contract, this next extension is based on his previous (or in this case, this season's) salary. A new contract, not negotiated as an extension, is a different animal all together. That's why the extension is for four years, and not six years. Four years is the maximum number of years for an extension for a player like Perk. If he were negotiating a new contract, he could technically get max dollars and six years.

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    There is no difference.
    There's a tremendous difference.

    Read the rules:

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q52

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    The Celtics low-balled him.
    No.

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    Yes they did. Are you trying to tell me that he was asking the Celtics to pay him more than they were allowed? I find that highly implausible.

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    There is. Because Perkins already got an extension from his rookie contract and it wasn't a max contract, this next extension is based on his previous (or in this case, this season's) salary. A new contract, not negotiated as an extension, is a different animal all together. That's why the extension is for four years, and not six years. Four years is the maximum number of years for an extension for a player like Perk. If he were negotiating a new contract, he could technically get max dollars and six years.
    You are right about that. He still could have finished his contract and re-signed as an FA for any amount though.

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    Yes they did. Are you trying to tell me that he was asking the Celtics to pay him more than they were allowed? I find that highly implausible.
    I'm saying that the rules are black and white. Under the CBA, the max extension that Boston could offer was 4/22. The "report" that he had asked for 4/30 was anonymous and incorrect.

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    I'm saying that the rules are black and white. Under the CBA, the max extension that Boston could offer was 4/22. The "report" that he had asked for 4/30 was anonymous and incorrect.
    Can you provide a link that states 4/22 was the max Boston could offer? I have found two stories that state 4/30 was the max he could get. Regardless, Boston still could have let him become a FA and resigned him using his Bird rights. They low-balled him.

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    In this season in particular, the extension happening before the season was over is key for both sides. Boston would have obviously liked to lock up Perkins before he became an unrestricted free agent this summer and watch some teams try to up his asking price which Boston feared could have gotten as high as $9-10 million a year. Perkins obviously wanted to get an extension and guaranteed money before the new CBA was negotiated because no one knows how that will affect the salary cap and individual player salaries. Moreover, it's always prudent to take guaranteed money that is approximately your worth when you have an injury and don't know what's going to happen when it comes to basketball. See Grant Hill. What seemed like an ordinary ankle injury became a 4-5 year odyssey of health issues for Hill. Good thing the Magic didn't mind securing him with a max contract back then. Both sides wanted to negotiate an extension.

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    Can you provide a link that states 4/22 was the max Boston could offer? I have found two stories that state 4/30 was the max he could get. Regardless, Boston still could have let him become a FA and resigned him using his Bird rights. They low-balled him.
    There are plenty of stories written by guys that can't spell CBA.

    I provided you with a link to the rules. Plug in the numbers. They offered him the greatest amount allowed under the CBA for an extension. They did not low-ball him.

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